NLEX, SCTEX, Over-Speeding, Speed-Radar [MERGED Threads]

**tony.alonzo** · March 19th, 2014 02:40 AM

Originally Posted by CLAVEL3699

Learn from what?

No disrespect and no offense meant, but I thought this thread is for discussing "over-speeding, speed-radar" along NLEX, SCTEX and my intent is to share to others that TPLEX also apparently has the same speed-radars similar to NLEX, SCTEX... please correct me, if I am misunderstanding where you are coming from on your early reply to my post.

**ghosthunter** · March 19th, 2014 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by tony.alonzo

And yes, my radar detector did not detected any unusual nor gave an alarm the whole stretch of TPLEX.

Usually, this has worked very well along Macapagal, SCTEX, SKYWAY, and SLEX before.

Does your radar detector also does laser? Maybe you got tagged by laser?

**ghosthunter** · March 19th, 2014 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by tony.alonzo

Has anyone been flagged down recently at the northern most end of the TPLEX extension after SCTEX (headed Baguio direction)?

I was recently flagged down and the LTO deputised person claimed that I was running 125kph but cannot give me a photo capture of the speedcam and to cut the long story short as I was going to miss an appointment, just handed over my license but the temporary license paper showed an incorrect car color and also I remember, the apprehending person was copying the front license plate of my car... now here's the kicker, when I was flagged down, another car of the same brand and model except it was a dark gray vehicle was flagged down ahead of me.

I vividly recalled there was no patrol nor any potential place where a person with a speed gun could have hide away from... if they cannot produce a evidence copy of the speed cam shot of my vehicle and with my plate number, can I protest it at LTO main? I managed to get a copy of the ID of the apprehending person who promised to get the speedcam shot to my email id, but I doubt if they have one.

My radar detector did not ping the whole stretch of TPLEX...

If you cannot argue your way out of the speeding ticket, I think you can accept it "under protest" and then have it handled at LTO main. As to what I have heard, your chances of having it dismissed is good especially there is no speedcam photo evidence of you speeding.

**boybi** · March 19th, 2014 12:06 PM

Are they capable of detecting your speed during night time? I think I was caught overspeeding last week around 9pm, upon approaching the toll gate, there was an enforcer rushing towards me and waving at me. There was no car behind me so I'm pretty sure it was me he's after. But I was not able to stop since I was only made aware of the situation by my passenger when I was already inside the toll booth and I have EC tag so tuloy-tuloy lang ako.

**skybison** · March 19th, 2014 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by boybi

Are they capable of detecting your speed during night time? I think I was caught overspeeding last week around 9pm, upon approaching the toll gate, there was an enforcer rushing towards me and waving at me. There was no car behind me so I'm pretty sure it was me he's after. But I was not able to stop since I was only made aware of the situation by my passenger when I was already inside the toll booth and I have EC tag so tuloy-tuloy lang ako.

Imo, they may catch you speeding on their speedguns at night but the glare of headlights will hide your plate. So case to case din.

**ghosthunter** · March 19th, 2014 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by boybi

Are they capable of detecting your speed during night time? I think I was caught overspeeding last week around 9pm, upon approaching the toll gate, there was an enforcer rushing towards me and waving at me. There was no car behind me so I'm pretty sure it was me he's after. But I was not able to stop since I was only made aware of the situation by my passenger when I was already inside the toll booth and I have EC tag so tuloy-tuloy lang ako.

The older tech speed radar cams cannot take pictures when it is night time. The newer ones have night mode to take clear photos. But from what I know, there is only one unit under evaluation by MMDA. The speed guns used along the expressway are still using older tech.

**tony.alonzo** · March 19th, 2014 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by ghosthunter

If you cannot argue your way out of the speeding ticket, I think you can accept it "under protest" and then have it handled at LTO main. As to what I have heard, your chances of having it dismissed is good especially there is no speedcam photo evidence of you speeding.

You're right.

Just found out from my LTO contact that they have my license now but there is no field report that is required from the deputized LTO person that apprehended me nor a copy whether print or electronic of a speedcam captured evidence of my vehicle overspeeding supposedly at 125kph.

I will have to pay the amount fee but will do it "under dispute / protest" attesting the following:

- The written body color of my vehicle on the LTO pink slip is wrong
- There is no evidence of speedcam captured instance of my vehicle overspeeding contrary to what the apprehending LTO deputized person claimed last Saturday
- There is no actual incident report required to be submitted by the LTO deputized person to LTO-Main

**tony.alonzo** · March 21st, 2014 04:35 PM

Here's the ending to this incident:

1. LTO wasn't able to provide a copy of the actual speedcam captured
2. Instead of overspeeding at 125kph written on the pink slip by the apprehending LTO deputized person, the final verdict written on the LTO OR is "reckless driving"
3. No copy of the actual field report was able to be produced

At the end of the day, this seemed fishy. Hence, be careful when you navigate that portion and if you are flagged down supposedly via a speedcam, demand that a proof is presented right on the spot. Otherwise, they can always alleged anyone to be overspeeding to get your license card and have you pay hefty penalties for a different set of offense.

**ghosthunter** · March 22nd, 2014 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by tony.alonzo

Here's the ending to this incident:

1. LTO wasn't able to provide a copy of the actual speedcam captured
2. Instead of overspeeding at 125kph written on the pink slip by the apprehending LTO deputized person, the final verdict written on the LTO OR is "reckless driving"
3. No copy of the actual field report was able to be produced

At the end of the day, this seemed fishy. Hence, be careful when you navigate that portion and if you are flagged down supposedly via a speedcam, demand that a proof is presented right on the spot. Otherwise, they can always alleged anyone to be overspeeding to get your license card and have you pay hefty penalties for a different set of offense.

I would still question the verdict because they got the wrong car details on the original report. With no photo evidence, why should they still issue a "reckless driving" report? It should have been dismissed outright due to lack of any verified supporting report.

**noone09** · March 22nd, 2014 12:01 PM

To be honest medyo naiinggit ako sa mga malalakas loob mag overspeed sa mga expressways lalo na sa sctex na wala masyadong dumadaan. Di ko alam kung bubuntot ako o try ko rin magspeed up since wala naman yatang camera sa portion na yun at wala talagang ibang sasakayan na dumadaan.

Pero natatakot parin ako mag-risk at mahuli. Nakakapagtaka na pag dating sa last exit ng sctex (subic) na wala naman napa-flag down.

Pwede na kaya itong license plate flipper.

Pangungunahan ko na kung meron man magsasabi na kung gusto ko magspeed eh sa racetrack nalang. Sa racetrack kasi limitado ang straight line. At nagspeed lang naman ako pag walang ibang sasakyan.