NLEX, SCTEX, Over-Speeding, Speed-Radar [MERGED Threads]

**batang_raon14** · May 2nd, 2006 03:18 PM

*moipogi

chief, think about it. If a man's driving and goes way above the approved speed limit, and in the middle of his travel a vehicle in front of him suddenly hits the brakes, time to react is less.

Think of this situation in that event.If he's a habitual speeder, the tendency is for him to suddenly steer his vehicle to another lane without looking at his side mirrors instead of just braking. Now, WHAT IF there's a car on the other lane and since his movement was so abrupt, the other driver had no time to react. In the end, collision and an accident that could have been prevented.

Speeding is reckless for it affects other drivers on the road. Whether it's you or them. It's a major offense, and that's it.

**moipogi** · May 2nd, 2006 09:58 PM

No doubt I see where you're coming from, but that is a hypothetical situation and it does not fully justify your point.

If I was driving at 100kph or 136kph, and I was closely following the car ahead of me EDSA-style, if somebody did slam the brakes, then an accident will likely happen since one did not allow for extra space given the speeds you were travelling.

I usually allow for 3 car lengths and only "speed" if there is an open road ahead. NLEX is wide enough to sustain faster speeds, but again, since I did exceed the speed limit, I did not contest the ticket.

How about somebidy who travels at 40kph in the NLEX, which may cause other drivers to get irritated and overtake on the shoulder? Only to find out that there's somebody parked, fixing a flat? In the end, a possible collision and an accident that could have been prevented.

I would think that "speeding" per se cannot be immediately deemed reckless without looking at the situation.

Don't get me wrong, it is an offense, and I will willingly pay the fine, but I would not automatically say its reckless.

Even in the states, speeding is not deemed reckless, and if the ticket is challenged, the burden of proof is on the authorities, since you are innocent unless proven guilty.

Factors to be considered include prior driving record, the speed of the offense, the driving behavior, whether or not an accident ensued, etc.

**smalltimer** · May 3rd, 2006 11:46 AM

*moipogi

sir magkano binayad mong fine sa speeding? I assume you were caught because of your 136kph speed? Ganun na ba kahigpit ngayon?

**bardigones** · May 3rd, 2006 11:57 AM

120kph max for overtaking. so medyo allowed up to 120 nga.

imo, around 80kph cruising para makatipid. and yes, i think pag naka ec-tag ka e ok lang ang speeding. :D

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you could contest the "reckless" part ng speeding.

**CTPZ** · May 3rd, 2006 08:28 PM

Total fines sa LTO is P563.76 and you have to take a seminar because its considered wreckless driving. Wait til friday before you go to LTO because MNTC surrenders confiscated licenses on friday morning.

**batang_raon14** · May 3rd, 2006 11:53 PM

No doubt I see where you're coming from, but that is a hypothetical situation and it does not fully justify your point.

I am not sure sir of how you could see where I'm coming from or what the line even meant. But, yes, indeed, it is a hypothetical situation and in fact does not fully justify my point. It depends on whether the one comprehending the situation I cited for an example is either an example or a defense.

I usually allow for 3 car lengths and only "speed" if there is an open road ahead.

I also follow the 3 car lengths rule as advised to me by my Driving Teacher before. And should you speed in an open road, then sir there's indeed no problem with that. Exceeding the "speed" recommended as the limit on a certain highway though, is a problem. A result could be similar to yours sir, wherein you have to pay fines, attend a seminar, and wait some time till you could get your license back.

How about somebidy who travels at 40kph in the NLEX, which may cause other drivers to get irritated and overtake on the shoulder? Only to find out that there's somebody parked, fixing a flat? In the end, a possible collision and an accident that could have been prevented.

In my humblest opinion sir, this is also a hypothetical situation. But I believe strongly in mine. The situation you cited as an example is a sample of road rage. And who said you could use the shoulder to overtake on NLEX or any other highways? Could everyone no longer see the sign "STRICTLY NO OVERTAKING ON SHOULDER" especially the word strict on it? Surely, it could've been prevented if the driver slowly changed to a faster lane and not on the shoulder instead. And since you included a shoulder on your situation sir, I assume the road wherein the vehicles are running and others fixing tires are on a road with an ordinary lane and a shoulder lane on the very least.

you could contest the "reckless" part ng speeding.

Surely, you may contest it. Each and everyone of us are given the right to believe in what we believe.

Just my 2 cents. And peace to all! =D

**obiwan** · September 8th, 2006 06:25 PM

Darn! I didnt know that they had these on the NLEX! i got caught doing only 129 kph...come on, it was not THAT fast.....

anyway, it was a wednesday at 330pm and i was wondering why the traffic cop was pulling me over at the toll gate.....what pissed me off was there no warning sign, if there was a sign (like in the US) i would not have sped the way i did....

another thing that pissed me off is that the damn van i was following (going just as fast i was) was not caught...

anyway, just want to spread the word to all you guys so you dont get caught the way i did....

the only thing i liked about it was the cop did not ask for a bribe so i cooperatively gave my license and made tubos at the LTO east ave......

**Gumusut_Amige** · September 8th, 2006 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by obiwan

Darn! I didnt know that they had these on the NLEX! i got caught doing only 129 kph...come on, it was not THAT fast.....

anyway, it was a wednesday at 330pm and i was wondering why the traffic cop was pulling me over at the toll gate.....what pissed me off was there no warning sign, if there was a sign (like in the US) i would not have sped the way i did....

another thing that pissed me off is that the damn van i was following (going just as fast i was) was not caught...

anyway, just want to spread the word to all you guys so you dont get caught the way i did....

the only thing i liked about it was the cop did not ask for a bribe so i cooperatively gave my license and made tubos at the LTO east ave......

any idea where's the specific location of that speed radar or where do you think part of NLEX when you floored the gas?

**niky** · September 8th, 2006 06:45 PM

Obviously, they don't bother to point their radar guns at vans or FXs. I suppose they don't think these vehicles can hit that speed.

Given the numberof Tamaraws I've seen doing 150 on the NLEX (blowing clouds of black smoke as they do), they apparently need to rethink this premise.

What tollgate did you get stopped at? AFAIK, the southernmost toll plaza is too crowded for them to find you, and I've never seen cops on duty at the northernmost end

Oh by the way, speeding is speeding is illegal (oh, I'm guilty of it, too)... but they really should set a buffer wherein they'll disregard your speed (between 100-120) because car speedometers are inaccurate anyway.

The idiots on the SLEX caught my uncle's driver "doing 105 km/h". Bull-f***ing Sh**. Pinag-tripan din ang pinsan ko. 50 km/h in a 40 km/h zone... on the Skyway of all places. And he usually drives only 80-90 km/h on the highway.