Manila to be uninhabitable in 4 years if traffic chaos not resolved

[anonemus]

Even a child can understand that a good public transpo system is the first step to get the middle class out of their cars and alleviate traffic.

But what ticks me off is that people seem to think that fixing our broken transpo system is something that can be done within 1 term of a president. PPPs, anomalous contracts, all of these need time to fix and implement. Even with a completely efficient government, it won't be done as quickly as people expect. With a sub-optimal government like ours, it'll take even longer.

But right now, all there is for us to do is wait, and deal with it. There's also the option to move out if you don't have the patience to see this country move up from its 3rd world status (might not even happen in your lifetime if you're middle-aged already).


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As usual, excellent points.

Just to add one crucial thing we can do: select wisely the next President who will execute this strategy based on JICA master plan incorporating short, medium and long-term projects (Dream)

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...10345575679186

https://youtu.be/SVFP2JCd8Bs

But if the next President couldn't care less but enrich himself, his family and cronies...

Hello Perth, Australia! 😁

[Stigg ma]

May tren na, ayaw mo pa?


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yes ayaw ko, we all know we have a dispute in china, so how can you guarantee its quality and safety? dispute sa china tapos dun ka bibili ng gamit mo, pera ng pinas na punta sa china para palaguin ang economy nila, dont tell me wala iba choice, there are mas mahal nga lang, but kung justifiable yong quality eh why not (like japan)... also, what happened to the mini train UP/DOST was developing???

may pa dispute x2 pa, eh we're funding there economy naman pala

i do not need a term, give me 6 months and i will kill corruption in the govt or else i resign -DU30

[jut703]

As usual, excellent points.

Just to add one crucial thing we can do: select wisely the next President who will execute this strategy based on JICA master plan incorporating short, medium and long-term projects (Dream)

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...10345575679186

https://youtu.be/SVFP2JCd8Bs

But if the next President couldn't care less but enrich himself, his family and cronies...

Hello Perth, Australia! [emoji16]

I definitely agree bro. Each presidentable's action plan on the metro traffic is something I'm closely watching. I want pragmatic, doable solutions and not papogi blanket statements nor excessively idealistic plans.

My girlfriend's brother has been egging us to move to Melbourne with them, but I haven't raised the white flag just yet on this pearl of the orient of ours.


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[anonemus]

I definitely agree bro. Each presidentable's action plan on the metro traffic is something I'm closely watching. I want pragmatic, doable solutions and not papogi blanket statements nor excessively idealistic plans.

My girlfriend's brother has been egging us to move to Melbourne with them, but I haven't raised the white flag just yet on this pearl of the orient of ours.


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I hope the country's mega traffic problems (MManila, Cebu, Davao, etc) will be discussed in the presidential debate and also be in each candidate's platform.

Pwede naman din bro if the Dark Lord wins eh migrate na lang muna temporarily, until EDSA 5 or 6 😁

[jut703]

yes ayaw ko, we all know we have a dispute in china, so how can you guarantee its quality and safety? dispute sa china tapos dun ka bibili ng gamit mo, pera ng pinas na punta sa china para palaguin ang economy nila, dont tell me wala iba choice, there are mas mahal nga lang, but kung justifiable yong quality eh why not (like japan)... also, what happened to the mini train UP/DOST was developing???

may pa dispute x2 pa, eh we're funding there economy naman pala

So do you think that the train was tampered by the Chinese government out of spite? To kill innocent commuters? And you think that the DOTC never bothered to test the trains? This prototype has been under rigorous testing since Q4 last year.

And if you really wanna push the anti-China sentiment, do you mind throwing away everything you own that was made in China? You might find that your household will be much more minimalist afterwards.

You speak about acquiring trains as if it were as easy as shopping for a car. I don't know your credentials, but all your posts on this forum about political issues are terribly off-tangent. Making things worse is that you have the gall to dismiss all the efforts of the government as pathetic, yet are unable to come up with cohesive, implementable suggestions of your own. You act as if you understand the intricacies of government issues, but as the idiom says, the noisiest cans are the empty ones.

And while we're at it, your beloved Duterte has claimed that he'll make a railway on top of the Pasig River. Now, please tell me how he plans to implement that. Considering the capex required, not to mention the sheer difficulty of the project, coupled with your bet's brazen attitude, how exactly will he get companies to enter into PPPs to built the grandiose river railway? Or are you expecting a government-funded project, in which case, please enlighten me where we'll get the billions to build this project. Lastly, while feasibility studies of the MRT/LRT extensions have taken the most part of Aquino's term, I wonder what sort of research has been put into your bet's plans, or are you just going to assume that whatever he says is always sound and implementable?


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[Stigg ma]

So do you think that the train was tampered by the Chinese government out of spite? To kill innocent commuters? And you think that the DOTC never bothered to test the trains? This prototype has been under rigorous testing since Q4 last year.

And if you really wanna push the anti-China sentiment, do you mind throwing away everything you own that was made in China? You might find that your household will be much more minimalist afterwards.

You speak about acquiring trains as if it were as easy as shopping for a car. I don't know your credentials, but all your posts on this forum about political issues are terribly off-tangent. Making things worse is that you have the gall to dismiss all the efforts of the government as pathetic, yet are unable to come up with cohesive, implementable suggestions of your own. You act as if you understand the intricacies of government issues, but as the idiom says, the noisiest cans are the empty ones.

And while we're at it, your beloved Duterte has claimed that he'll make a railway on top of the Pasig River. Now, please tell me how he plans to implement that. Considering the capex required, not to mention the sheer difficulty of the project, coupled with your bet's brazen attitude, how exactly will he get companies to enter into PPPs to built the grandiose river railway? Or are you expecting a government-funded project, in which case, please enlighten me where we'll get the billions to build this project. Lastly, while feasibility studies of the MRT/LRT extensions have taken the most part of Aquino's term, I wonder what sort of research has been put into your bet's plans, or are you just going to assume that whatever he says is always sound and implementable?


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DOST testing? sorry i lost trust in the government a long time ago...

[dishcom]

Sa ikaka unlad ng bayan. Train ang kaylangan.. kung magiging magaan ang pag sakay sa train then mas maraming station e tingin ko mas kukunti anggm gagamit ng auto.

[jut703]

DOST testing? sorry i lost trust in the government a long time ago...

Ok, so you distrust the government, yet are willing to submit yourself entirely to your presidential bet, dictatorial tendencies and all. I wonder though, do you expect that the moment he steps into office, all corrupt systems and persons in government will be instantly eradicated?

Assuming he bypasses all due process and removes everyone he thinks is corrupt, are you certain that he has impeccable judgement to be able to appoint only saintly people government posts, from lowly clerks to cabinet secretaries?

Your 180 degree turn from utter distrust to fanatical obedience is quite intriguing, and I'm honestly curious how much of a radical improvement you're expecting just because of one person.

Also, what about everything else I posted? What's your say on your presidential bet's grandiose railway plan. Sayang naman, I was trying to engage in an intellectual discussion and all you could muster was a single-sentence reply.

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[viper888]

The simple solution would be more trains and the management of metro manila bus lines. I dont see the chinese trains being a problem.

Decentralization could work but there are many areas outside of luzon which already experience grid lock traffic on a daily basis.

[n_spinner06]

I'm considering moving south...laguna in the next few years God-willing. The time i spend in traffic is too expensive already. Costlier than the toll i'd be spending...