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November 6th, 2009 11:36 AM #741mga sirs good day first time joining and posting!!!! i know all of you are talking about the new Altis!! unfortunately my budget is short and due to ondoy nadale ung revo ko!! so no way ako short on budget so i decided to buy 2nd hand Altis '03 1.6g automatic!! seems the user manual is missing anybody have any idea kung saan ako pwede makakuha ng Altis n manual???? the car's performance is still good interior nd exterior are all ok ive always been a fan of toyota any comment pls kung ok ung nabili ko?? performance wise?? how much is the fuel consumption for this type of altis ????
hoping for your kind advises guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thanks
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November 6th, 2009 11:59 AM #742Sir MDA thanks po sa reply.
As mentioned po sa previous post ko, the reason po na I'm thinking of getting the 2.0V vs the 1.6V, apart from the upgrade sa engine power, are the features that this model has over the 1.6V.
Some of the features po that I'm talking about are:
- Push Start Button
- Auto Rain Sensor
- HID Headlights
- Leather Seats
- Power 8-way Seat Adjustments
- Paddle Shifts
- Smart Entry Keyless Device
These features po I believe can be found sa 3.5Q model ng Camry, which is way too expensive for me. City driving lang po kasi ako, so ang habol ko po, is the convenience and features of a luxury car, without the need to actually buy one
Sa aftermarket entertainment devices po, mag fifit po ba kaya yung sa dash ng corolla? Medyo customized po kasi yung dash ng corolla, mga nakita ko po na exact fit, puro China made naman po.
Sana din po may makasagot ng ibang questions ko pa. Thanks!
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November 6th, 2009 08:56 PM #743My personal thoughts on your comments:
1. Engine power. There's definitely a lot of that in the 2.0 over the 1.6, but there are other cars to choose from for more power. Lancer/Civic/Impreza come to mind.
2. Features:
Push Start - more of a novelty than a useful feature.
Auto Rain Sensor - A little more function but I think it's easy enough to use the normal lever
HID - Most other cars in the 2.0 range have HID headlights too.
Leather Seats - Can't complain. Maganda talaga yung OEM leather seats.
8-way power seat adjustments - I like this but is it really needed? I'd rather have a car with memory for seat settings :p
Paddle Shifts - Medyo odd kasi you pair paddle shifts with a 4 speed automatic transmission. Doesn't sound sporty hehe, parang kulang ng isa pang gear, which is why I don't like the Impreza AT either. "Sporty" car, good engine, but unsporty and letdown yung transmission.
Smart Keyless Entry Device - Not sure what this does, pero parang the most compacts now have a built in alarm where you can push a button on your key to lock/unlock your car? Pag lapit mo palang mag uunlock na yung car? Nice feature to have din pero not exactly necessary?
3. Re: the dashkit, there are dash kits available which replaces your dashboard and leaves a space for a custom head unit. Not sure where you can look to get a good deal though.
4. In my *personal opinion*, there are just better cars for 1.1M unless you're after pure luxury and even then, I'd rather get the 1.6V for the pure practicality of it since you only do city driving.
Hope this helps.
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November 6th, 2009 09:12 PM #744
- Push Start Button
> Not really needed. You could just turn on the car in a normal way, twisting the key.
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Rain Sensor
> Normal type will do
- HID Headlights
> As what sir MDA said, HID comes in most 2.0 vehicles
- Leather Seats
> I never liked leather seats on cars. It's just me BTW. When the sun is high, your seat will get so hot too. Fabric is enough.
- Power 8-way Seat Adjustments
> :dunno:
- Paddle Shifts
> The 1.8S A/T Civic comes in with Paddle Shifters too, and it's below 1M.
- Smart Entry Keyless Device
> Is this the keyless entry ? Most cars comes with this.
> ALL IN ALL, THERE ARE A LOT OF CHEAPER CARS TO CHOOSE FROM WITH ALMOST THE SAME FEATURES. THE CIVIC IS PRACTICAL AND SO DOES THE LANCER.
IF YOU'D OPT FOR THE ALTIS, JUST GET THE 1.6V or 1.8V if available.
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November 7th, 2009 02:42 AM #745
Replied to your PM na sir about the ownership feedback. As for the features you mentioned:
Push Start Button
* Pretty nifty feature. Hindi siya kailangan, pero it's a nice touch. My mom is in love with this single feature alone. I could do without it, though. It shouldn't be your sole reason to get a 2.0V.
Auto Rain Sensor
* A lot of other compacts have this. I think all 2.0 models have it.
HID Headlights
* Super liwanag. Lights up your path well. Yun nga lang you can always retrofit, and like rain sensors, a lot of other 2.0 models have this.
Leather Seats
* Masarap upuan. Mainit pag maaraw. Mabango din pag bago. But really, the Altis has comfortable seats.
Power 8-way Seat Adjustments
* Like the push-button, another luxury feature. This is more useful though, with manual adjustments kasi, it's not as precise. Yun nga lang kung madami kayong magddrive wala siyang memory setting so you have to adjust it per driver every time.
Paddle Shifts
* Has proven useful to me during highway overtaking as well as pag biglang kailangang umarangkada using 1st gear. Then again you can put it in S-mode and let the car do the shifting.
Smart Entry Keyless Device
* Like the power seats and push button, it's a unique luxury feature. But this one's mighty useful. No need to get the keys. Pag nagmamadali ka lagi maaappreciate mo 'to.
Strictly speaking, the Altis has the most toys in the compact car segment because Toyota decided to trickle down some of the Camry's features.
That said, if you enjoy the features, get the Corolla. It's worth it.
If you want a better drive with still a lot of features, get the Civic 2.0S.
If you have money to burn, Lancer GT-A.
Another bang for the buck 2.0 is the Mz3 2.0R but it's a 5 year old model and will be replaced soon.
If you want raw power, get a Focus Diesel. Ang tindi ng hatak nun.
Basically the 2.0 segment is the most crowded (ironically eto rin yung pinakamababa benta kasi mahal) niche of the compact car segment.
Lower end models usually Civic and Altis lang naglalaban. Or pag mas mababa pa dun Sentra vs Lancer vs Vios vs City.
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November 7th, 2009 07:45 AM #746Slightly OT, but baka gusto nalang ni supermanila ng 2.4G Camry.
Nasa 1.1M na yung Corolla 2.0V, the Camry 2.4G is only 300k away
I'd do away with some the luxury features for a better car (lack of the immobilizer is a letdown though).
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November 7th, 2009 02:41 PM #747
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November 7th, 2009 06:45 PM #748thanks for the inputs mga gurus. why do I have the impression na you're telling me either go down to 1.6V, or buy a different 2.0 liter car, wag lang Altis 2.0V?
hehe, pero tama po si sir jut703, I'm after the camry 3.5Q features, but I can't afford one. I know din po 300k nalang camry 2.4G na, but I can't stretch 300k pa anymore, besides, yung features po ng camry 2.4G medyo limited din po, although of course it's already a camry
Question po, anong color po ng altis itong nasa picture po? sadly, yung dark gray daw po indi na available for 2.0V, ang pwede lang ay Silver, Medium Silver, Black, Pearl White, and Beige. Ang gusto ko sana yung dark gray.
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November 7th, 2009 08:12 PM #749
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