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  1. Join Date
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    im thinking of getting a hilux surf from subic. pls. give me your honest opinion. thanks

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    as for me... am staying away from converted-RHD vehicles.

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    #3
    yep i 2nd that

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    have'nt met anyone who sticked long enough with his surf... they would always upgrade to a pajero or a trooper...

    my SUVic pajero is ok naman, for my standards... it's not a bnew vehicle so do'nt expect that its in a nothing to fix condition... i had my underchassis refurbished, minor electrical works done so far... replaced all the belts and hoses for preventive measure... problem is i think its suffering a little blowby, i consumed 350ml of oil within the span of 5000 kms. not much though, its bearable since i got a high mileage unit 102T kms at the time, or maybe it was due to the turbo leak that i had to get fixed..

    its very important to check the steering sytem and the brakes if it were converted properly..



    though its not a surf, i'm just sharing some possible similar problems you may encounter.
    Last edited by v22; September 12th, 2005 at 02:50 PM.

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    balita ko sa 2 friends ko na may surf dati, medyo prone daw sa overheating. pero baka yung units lang naman nila.

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    Quote Originally Posted by konde
    balita ko sa 2 friends ko na may surf dati, medyo prone daw sa overheating. pero baka yung units lang naman nila.
    For anyone still interested on Subic surfs, I would like to share some tips(which I got from others) on prevention/trouble shooting overheating problem on surfs, as follows

    1st : check coolant level, then all hoses & radiator for leakage - run idle in your garage and look below for water drips. Replace leaking hoses or worn clamps.

    2nd : check/replace thermostat - located inside the top hose connection at engine end from the radiator (needs to unscrew 2 bolts to access). - this is the usual culprit = needs few effort & small cost of a new thermostat replacement.

    3rd : if still over heating, check/ re-oil your radiator fan - needs 4 tubes of silicon oil to do this.

    4th : if still over heating, overhaul or replace your radiator

    The above are most common senario on surfs. However, after exhausting the above solutions and overheating still remains, consider causes such as tune-up problems or engine mechanical problems (unusual, otherwise it will not come out of subic).

    Other tips I got once you take your vehicle from Subic are

    - change oil & filter immediately
    - detach rubber tubing to EGR (don't know why though)
    - check hair line cracks on the tires (replace with new ones if there are)
    - although a lot uses reshaped pitman arm, incase your pitman arm was welded, check quality of the weld (pick it with hammer, look for cracks).
    - check tightness of bolts & nuts used on the conversion (idle arm, pitman arm, steering shaft supports and joints)
    - remove the front chairs & front carpet. Clean all rubbish/dirt generated during conversion, then apply tire black (to avoid corrosion) before putting back you carpet.
    - if the wipers were transfered, apply grease at the underside of the plugged holes (previous positions of wipers) to avoid corrossion.

    The above are really tigious to most people. But once you did, it may give you peace of mind to enjoy your vehicle.

    However, I also agree on the setting away any dilemna on buying 2nd hand cars, by buying brand new ones (which I also did before). It always depend on our likes & budgets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alromcc
    For anyone still interested on Subic surfs, I would like to share some tips(which I got from others) on prevention/trouble shooting overheating problem on surfs, as follows

    1st : check coolant level, then all hoses & radiator for leakage - run idle in your garage and look below for water drips. Replace leaking hoses or worn clamps.

    2nd : check/replace thermostat - located inside the top hose connection at engine end from the radiator (needs to unscrew 2 bolts to access). - this is the usual culprit = needs few effort & small cost of a new thermostat replacement.

    3rd : if still over heating, check/ re-oil your radiator fan - needs 4 tubes of silicon oil to do this.

    4th : if still over heating, overhaul or replace your radiator

    The above are most common senario on surfs. However, after exhausting the above solutions and overheating still remains, consider causes such as tune-up problems or engine mechanical problems (unusual, otherwise it will not come out of subic).

    Other tips I got once you take your vehicle from Subic are

    - change oil & filter immediately
    - detach rubber tubing to EGR (don't know why though)
    - check hair line cracks on the tires (replace with new ones if there are)
    - although a lot uses reshaped pitman arm, incase your pitman arm was welded, check quality of the weld (pick it with hammer, look for cracks).
    - check tightness of bolts & nuts used on the conversion (idle arm, pitman arm, steering shaft supports and joints)
    - remove the front chairs & front carpet. Clean all rubbish/dirt generated during conversion, then apply tire black (to avoid corrosion) before putting back you carpet.
    - if the wipers were transfered, apply grease at the underside of the plugged holes (previous positions of wipers) to avoid corrossion.

    The above are really tigious to most people. But once you did, it may give you peace of mind to enjoy your vehicle.

    However, I also agree on the setting away any dilemna on buying 2nd hand cars, by buying brand new ones (which I also did before). It always depend on our likes & budgets.
    --I could be wrong but this is exactly what scares people about Subic cars hahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by telulah
    --I could be wrong but this is exactly what scares people about Subic cars hahahaha
    Yup, it scares some people, but not all.
    I for one, was not scared to do all the checks that i should. Also it did not scare me during my long trips from Cavite to Olongapo, and going up to Baguio two times (via rough Kennon road) with my family (5 persons & fully packed with baggage, and AC was on). Till now it is fresh & ready for more adventures. hehehe

    Teka, kakahiya na, kasi para na akong salesman e. hehehe
    Hanggang dito na lang ang share ko.
    Hoped it helped some interested persons. Bye!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alromcc
    For anyone still interested on Subic surfs, I would like to share some tips(which I got from others) on prevention/trouble shooting overheating problem on surfs, as follows

    1st : check coolant level, then all hoses & radiator for leakage - run idle in your garage and look below for water drips. Replace leaking hoses or worn clamps.

    2nd : check/replace thermostat - located inside the top hose connection at engine end from the radiator (needs to unscrew 2 bolts to access). - this is the usual culprit = needs few effort & small cost of a new thermostat replacement.

    3rd : if still over heating, check/ re-oil your radiator fan - needs 4 tubes of silicon oil to do this.

    4th : if still over heating, overhaul or replace your radiator
    - if the wipers were transfered, apply grease at the underside of the plugged holes (previous positions of wipers) to avoid corrossion.

    The above are really tigious to most people. But once you did, it may give you peace of mind to enjoy your vehicle.

    However, I also agree on the setting away any dilemna on buying 2nd hand cars, by buying brand new ones (which I also did before). It always depend on our likes & budgets.
    alromcc, thanks for your advice(s). btw, matanong. kasi yung sa amin eh ang temperature ay laging nasa gitna ang needle ng engine temp (or radiator water temp). is this normal? kasi sa Civic ESi ko eh ang normal ay mga below 4/10's position. and also after reading some of the post's it says yung mga radiators daw ay pinapalitan. now i'm begining to doubt its not orig. radiator. anyway mukha syang all made of steel and mukha ngang mga gawang pipitsugin. how can u tell which is orig or replaced radiator of the Surf? and saan ka makakabili ng parts? like Ball joint, bearing, thermostat and timing belt? (malapit na mag 200,000Km eh.)

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    if you really like the surf, why dont you get an orig lhd 4runner. it should just cost a bit more, without the headaches.

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