All New Toyota Corolla Cross

**Verbl Kint** · April 18th, 2024 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by JohnM

Will most likely get a Pearl White G end of the year. This will become the daily-drive city car. We already have a roomier one with cruise control (that I haven't figured out yet) for out-of-town trips.

Would you consider an EV over the Corolla Cross for the city? Why or why not?

**LOLZ** · April 18th, 2024 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by jojopad

Kung meron cruise control yung G model ok na ako sa base model kahit hindi naka leather seats.

Shame they could have went with the fortuner V(that is not mentioned in brochures at all) route of offering non-radar cruise in non-ADAS equipped variants.

**ice15** · April 18th, 2024 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Verbl Kint

Would you consider an EV over the Corolla Cross for the city? Why or why not?

Personal opinion, if you can charge at home and don't mind the vehicle's resale value... yes, an EV is a good choice for the city

**JohnM** · April 18th, 2024 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by Verbl Kint

Would you consider an EV over the Corolla Cross for the city? Why or why not?

An EV for city driving sounds very good in theory and we've been seriously considering them especially since some good models are at the 1M-1.5M bracket. Charging is not a problem because we have our own garage.

The main blocker is the projected resale value. This will be the wife's company benefit so we plan to replace her car every 5 years. We just traded in our 6-year-old ICE SUV for less than half the original SRP. We knowingly took a big hit when we let it go because I didn't want to deal with the hassle of selling it ourselves. The new car will most probably be traded in as well when the time comes. If we get an EV now how will the resale prices look like down the road? The buyer will definitely check the battery health much like they check the mileage of ICE cars. Who will want shell out more than the car's worth for a new battery when it dies?

**ice15** · April 18th, 2024 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by JohnM

Who will want shell out more than the car's worth for a new battery when it dies?

this is my biggest complain with EVs... the whole vehicle will be disposed later.

no one wants to buy a second hand EV!

**Verbl Kint** · April 18th, 2024 02:08 PM

Those are fair points. It is quite early in the game for the Philippines when it comes to EV adoption, if I'm being honest. There's no telling what sort of supply chain we'll get once the need to get replacement batteries arises.

People are predicting replacement batteries will be a lot cheaper later this decade but we'll never really know until we get there. Lots of things can happen from now until then.

**ale828** · April 18th, 2024 02:14 PM

All cars depreciate either it be ICE, Hybrid or EV.
Sadly you will never get a good price if you trade in your car whatever make or model it is.
kahit Land Cruiser LC200/LC300 pa yan or Alphard i guarantee babaratin ka sa trade in price niyan.

Will the EV have better or worse resale value in 6 years time? no one knows. Maybe. Maybe not.
All depends on market movements in the next couple of years.

most EV have battery warranty of 8 years.
Since you will sell it way before then so you shouldn't be too worried about battery health.

**JohnM** · April 18th, 2024 02:14 PM

It looks like solid state batteries are the next big thing. Will manufacturers allow retrofits to current lithium packs? Or is it planned obsolescence? Based on teardowns it's easy enough to replace the whole pack. Repairing cells is a whole different story.

Can Gogoro's model be replicated on cars? I think BYD experimented with something similar.

**LOLZ** · April 18th, 2024 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by ice15

this is my biggest complain with EVs... the whole vehicle will be disposed later.

no one wants to buy a second hand EV!

I think having a battery pack repair industry would help alleviate the notion of EVs/hybrids being disposable. There are people retrofitting gen 1 leafs with gen 2 battery packs and rebuilding toyota hybrid packs as old as the 2001 gen 1 with either cell-matched new or used cells.

While a 110K thirdparty(vs 200k) battery pack will probably still be too large of a repair replacing a single cell module or a couple at 4k/pc would probably feasible for many owners.

**ice15** · April 18th, 2024 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by ale828

most EV have battery warranty of 8 years.
Since you will sell it way before then so you shouldn't be too worried about battery health.

agree ako syo. battery dying will be the next owner's problem.

kaso the only reason I'm buying an EV is its zero emissions. better air quality etc. if an EV will be in a landfill in the future, parang walang sense buying one (over a hybrid)

Originally Posted by JohnM

Can Gogoro's model be replicated on cars? I think BYD experimented with something similar.

I think Nio has the facility in China... pero it almost impossible to have it here.

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