2022 Toyota Avanza / Veloz

**111prez** · November 12th, 2021 10:01 AM

Looks like that the Avanza and Veloz will be two different models and offered side by side: https://www.autoindustriya.com/auto-...er-avanza.html

**Ry_Tower** · November 12th, 2021 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by 111prez

Looks like that the Avanza and Veloz will be two different models and offered side by side: https://www.autoindustriya.com/auto-...er-avanza.html

Hindi na body-on-frame pala Avanza, hindi na pang-harabas. hehe

**Vodka** · November 12th, 2021 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by Ry_Tower

Hindi na body-on-frame pala Avanza, hindi na pang-harabas. hehe

avanza never had a ladder frame

**ice15** · November 12th, 2021 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by Vodka

avanza never had a ladder frame

technically it has (same as the Rush) kaso welded to the body

Toyota Avanza Facts: Updates you need to know | Autodeal

Featuring a ladder frame that’s welded together with the body and floor pan, the Avanza technically rides on a unibody chassis that offers good ground clearance and versatility.

**Vodka** · November 12th, 2021 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by ice15

technically it has (same as the Rush) kaso welded to the body

Toyota Avanza Facts: Updates you need to know | Autodeal

marketing nonsense

all unibody cars have u-shaped pieces spot-welded to the body which somewhat resembles a ladder

but it's not a ladder frame like on a pickup truck

**ice15** · November 12th, 2021 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by Vodka

marketing nonsense

all unibody cars have u-shaped pieces spot-welded to the body which somewhat resembles a ladder

but it's not a ladder frame like on a pickup truck

to be fair... I personally haven't seen the Avanza

Pero for me to personally say that a vehicle has a "ladder frame," the suspension and drivetrain must be connected to the "ladder frame"

**thearsenal1205** · November 12th, 2021 01:23 PM

Avanza is unibody since introduction. The drivetrain layout only has changed from longitudinal engine RWD to a transverse engine FWD.

Here's the Daihatsu sibling, the Xenia. If Daihatsu is making a comeback to PH they should bring this too.

2022 Daihatsu Xenia is Avanza's more affordable twin -AUTOINDUSTRIYA

**Vodka** · November 12th, 2021 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by ice15

to be fair... I personally haven't seen the Avanza

Pero for me to personally say that a vehicle has a "ladder frame," the suspension and drivetrain must be connected to the "ladder frame"

here's the avanza's u-shaped frame supports welded to the body to provide add'l strength where it's needed. the engine and suspension are bolted to them.

this is typical of monocoque cars. a honda city is built pretty much the same.

to say that a car has a ladder frame... it simply has to have one. i.e. a robust frame independent of the body