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    #91
    Saw this from an FB group. Chains on the cvt of the vios broke because of improper fluis used in the last out of casa PMS.

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    #92
    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlee View Post
    Yes, sir. But are we not all here because we want to find out what the official cause of death is? Immediate and antecedent?
    A hypothesis(anyone can, of course, dispute)...Fluid starvation was the initial irreversible blow. By using the car further after the said repair, say even w/ proper fluid & level, I can't help but imagine the crumbling parts & ground bits doing further internal damage. Worse on wrong fluid. The Shell rescue was a Hail Mary.

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    #93
    Quote Originally Posted by sirkosero View Post
    Saw this from an FB group. Chains on the cvt of the vios broke because of improper fluis used in the last out of casa PMS.

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    1 detached belt bit is all it takes...The Domino effect.[emoji852]

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    #94
    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    A hypothesis(anyone can, of course, dispute)...Fluid starvation was the initial irreversible blow. By using the car further after the said repair, say even w/ proper fluid & level, I can't help but imagine the crumbling parts & ground bits doing further internal damage. Worse on wrong fluid. The Shell rescue was a Hail Mary.

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    I also do think fluid starvation is what doomed the transmission since the CVT fluid provides the friction for the belt to bite and ATF doesn't do that causing slipping, overheating and eventual breakage of the belt.Using ATF probably just accelerated its demise and even if shell did market(they dont according to their electronic catalogue) and put suzuki-approved CVT fluid in the car it would probably develop the same symptoms anyway
    (Shell seems to be their oem for cvt fluid atleast for the Swift 1.2/SX-4 with the thailand owner's manual calling out for either Shell Green 1V or Suzuki Green 1 Fluid i'd wager that their Spirax S5 CVT X or CVTF S-Green-2 would be at least compatible if not the same product as Suzuki's Green 2 fluid(which suspiciously sounds like the latter))

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    #95
    Quote Originally Posted by hardwang View Post
    bottomline, don't buy a car with a cvt. [emoji2957]
    word!
    ,.........
    Last edited by Horsepower; December 3rd, 2019 at 11:59 PM.

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    #96
    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    A hypothesis(anyone can, of course, dispute)...Fluid starvation was the initial irreversible blow. By using the car further after the said repair, say even w/ proper fluid & level, I can't help but imagine the crumbling parts & ground bits doing further internal damage. Worse on wrong fluid. The Shell rescue was a Hail Mary.

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    i agree.
    nasugatan na nung minanejo nang kalahating kilometrong walang proper lubrication...
    nothing could have stayed the completion of the mission.
    sorry na lang yung "last touch", dahil siya ang sisisihin.

    but i wonder,
    wala bang warning light yang kotseng yan, to warn of low fluid levels?

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    #97
    Quote Originally Posted by hardwang View Post
    Bottomline, don't buy a car with a CVT. 🤪
    pa-unti nang pa-unti ang 'matik na hindi cvt...

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    #98
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i agree.
    nasugatan na nung minanejo nang kalahating kilometrong walang proper lubrication...
    nothing could have stayed the completion of the mission.
    sorry na lang yung "last touch", dahil siya ang sisisihin.

    but i wonder,
    wala bang warning light yang kotseng yan, to warn of low fluid levels?
    meron cvt warning light na mag stesteady on pag may problem at magbliblink pag nagooverheat ung fluid

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    #99
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    pa-unti nang pa-unti ang 'matik na hindi cvt...
    ung makina ni wigo original na nakakabit na matik cvt na downgrade lang nun sa wigo na kinabit

    Edit: un unang labas 1kr noong 2004 meron din palang 4at

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    #100
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    pa-unti nang pa-unti ang 'matik na hindi cvt...
    The pseudo-aryans, Hyundai & Kia, have been refusing the CVT switch even on their lil ones. German influence.[emoji4]...Til when? It has begun.[emoji852]

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