2018 Subaru XV Non-casa PMS

**yapoy86** · October 6th, 2021 02:07 PM

Pero meron oil na ang tawag nila ay multi-use.. pwede for gas or diesel engine..

sa ZIC, may pang diesel at gas talaga..

if you will change brake fluid, use DOT 4, yan na ang latest at papalit sa DOT 3

medyo maaga yata bumigay bushing nyan.. have it checked muna ulit.. minsan those rubber bushing looks like may punit or biyak pero hindi pala..

**Wh1stl3r** · October 6th, 2021 02:16 PM

For Zic oils message crazy_boy, he will know much more about the oil lineup by Zic.

Re: diesel engine oils normally you can use them for gas engines as long as they also meet the required specs for your engine and has the same recommended viscosity. Diesel engine oils do have more detergent. Not sure if that will be an issue with Subie's boxer engines. Someone raised that question before in BITOG, just forgot what conclusion they arrived at. Diesel oils are called HDEO in the BITOG forum.

**kevindd992002** · October 6th, 2021 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by babkalakal

it happens bro. in that respect kasi yung jug ng diesel ng zic is too similar to the gasoline counterpart. same with shell na blue hx7. pareho yung lalagyan nakalagay lang in inconspicous letters diesel or gasoline. all too easy to miss the print.

Exactly. I bought the 6L diesel jug last March 2021 and I didn't even notice until Fusion R mentioned it to me earlier.

Originally Posted by Egan101

0w20 FS is the suggested viscosity for the FB20 engine. 5w30 FS is the alternative.

I would suggest Amsoil OE 0w20. You can get them at Lazada.

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I don't have the manual with me now but when I was asking about this a few years ago, I remember 5W-30 being recommended to me and that is what I've been using eversince I got this car. IIRC, MI also uses Motul 5W-30 for their engine oil for the 2018 XV.

Originally Posted by yapoy86

Pero meron oil na ang tawag nila ay multi-use.. pwede for gas or diesel engine..

sa ZIC, may pang diesel at gas talaga..

if you will change brake fluid, use DOT 4, yan na ang latest at papalit sa DOT 3

medyo maaga yata bumigay bushing nyan.. have it checked muna ulit.. minsan those rubber bushing looks like may punit or biyak pero hindi pala..

Yeah, I bought Prestone DOT4 for brake fluid pero di ko nagamit kanina since malinis pa daw yung brake fluid ng car ko. Tapos makapal pa daw yung mga brake pads, both front and rear.

As for the bushings, kanino ko siya ipapacheck? Sa casa or another service center? Probably 2211 Works? Kasi wala naman kalampag na naririnig e.

Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r

For Zic oils message crazy_boy, he will know much more about the oil lineup by Zic.

Re: diesel engine oils normally you can use them for gas engines as long as they also meet the required specs for your engine and has the same recommended viscosity. Diesel engine oils do have more detergent. Not sure if that will be an issue with Subie's boxer engines. Someone raised that question before in BITOG, just forgot what conclusion they arrived at. Diesel oils are called HDEO in the BITOG forum.

I will. Thanks.

**yapoy86** · October 6th, 2021 07:57 PM

sa brake fluid, not visually makikita yun quality.. hygroscopic kasi yan kaya nag absorb ng water.. since meron ka na din nabili, pwede naman yan drain and fill..

or pa bleed mo lang each brake..

yung sa bushing, pa check mo maige.. kung wala naman unnecessary movement yung arm or wala naman abnormal noise or wear sa gulong, ok pa yan bushing mo.. usually pag bumigay yan, ramdam mo yung ingay at malikot na handling..

sa mga new cars naman matibay na mga bushing. lalo na kung di naman masyado nadaan sa mga lubak lubak

**kevindd992002** · October 8th, 2021 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by yapoy86

sa brake fluid, not visually makikita yun quality.. hygroscopic kasi yan kaya nag absorb ng water.. since meron ka na din nabili, pwede naman yan drain and fill..

or pa bleed mo lang each brake..

yung sa bushing, pa check mo maige.. kung wala naman unnecessary movement yung arm or wala naman abnormal noise or wear sa gulong, ok pa yan bushing mo.. usually pag bumigay yan, ramdam mo yung ingay at malikot na handling..

sa mga new cars naman matibay na mga bushing. lalo na kung di naman masyado nadaan sa mga lubak lubak

I wonder kung pano chineck ni Fusion R yung quality ng brake fluid. Most probably it's just through visual checking. I was expecting them to be "experts" in this field.

Ok, I guess mas magandang ipacheck ko sa iba this time para may 2nd opinion. Most ng mileage ng car ko is because of my travel from Taguig to Pampanga and back. So yeah, wala naman lubak lubak most of the time.

**JohnM** · October 9th, 2021 07:15 PM

Brake fluid has to be replaced regularly. There is a tester for it but since bleeding out the system is quick and cheap then it doesn't hurt to have it done when all four wheels are off already. Not many shops do this though. When I had my brakes bled last we did it the old-fashioned "bomba! pirmi!" way.

**travajante** · October 10th, 2021 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by kevindd992002

Yeah, I don't know if I want to risk that though. I have the option for a refund from the seller naman and then I'll just buy the correct one. More hassle nga lang but that's a lesson learned for me. Now I know that 5W-30 diesel is not the same as 5W-30 gasoline.

You should've gotten the X9 d2(not d1). Acea C3 good for both petrol & diesel. Suitable for most current models...keeps your parts bin lean, too.[emoji4]

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**kevindd992002** · October 12th, 2021 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by JohnM

Brake fluid has to be replaced regularly. There is a tester for it but since bleeding out the system is quick and cheap then it doesn't hurt to have it done when all four wheels are off already. Not many shops do this though. When I had my brakes bled last we did it the old-fashioned "bomba! pirmi!" way.

Do you know if both 2211 and Fusion R do this method? Do you need a brake flush machine for this? Labor from Fusion R for brake fluid change is P1500.

Originally Posted by travajante

You should've gotten the X9 d2(not d1). Acea C3 good for both petrol & diesel. Suitable for most current models...keeps your parts bin lean, too.[emoji4]
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I can't seem to find this in Lazada. I see it in Shopee but it's P1.1K/liter! I already bought 7 liters of Zic X7 5W-30 gasoline. Is there a significant difference between the two?

**JohnM** · October 13th, 2021 08:01 AM

No idea if they do this. I am learning from your experiences hehe.

For 1500 they should have a tool that sucks out the fluid from each brake using an external compressor. This will be faster.

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**kevindd992002** · October 13th, 2021 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by JohnM

No idea if they do this. I am learning from your experiences hehe.

For 1500 they should have a tool that sucks out the fluid from each brake using an external compressor. This will be faster.

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Haha, I see. So I asked them about this and they told me that they "manually" bleed out the fluid through each caliper. So is that the traditional way of doing it? Is there anything wrong in doing it like this?

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