2014 Subaru Forester

**supermanila** · April 11th, 2013 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by 8BRZWRX

Does the current XT have a switch to soften/stiffen the suspension? MI has yet to give us a hard copy of the owner's manual. >.<

I think the EPA's fuel economy has to do US-specific environment. For example the traffic in the US aint as bad as here. They aren't obsessed with putting humps every 100m or so. Drivers are more competent and do not drive like our jeepney/tricycle/motorcycle/etc. Traffic law is largely enforced improving traffic condition. Road quality is different. Pati rin yung fuel.

Note: Pls do not take my post as combative. Just take it as conversational.

Sir MI didn't provide an owner's manual when you purchased the car? Lahat ba ng units wala?

Sad to say, I agree with you, we just can't look at manufacturer fuel consumption estimates since they're mostly based in foreign countries where conditions are better. I read from some thread here as well that our fuel with bioethanol actually makes fuel consumption worse.

**cfule** · April 11th, 2013 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by supermanila

Sir MI didn't provide an owner's manual when you purchased the car? Lahat ba ng units wala?

Sad to say, I agree with you, we just can't look at manufacturer fuel consumption estimates since they're mostly based in foreign countries where conditions are better. I read from some thread here as well that our fuel with bioethanol actually makes fuel consumption worse.

is that true? is there a gasoline regardless of brand that does not contain 10% ethanol? heck even diesel i think is being mixed with it

**supermanila** · April 11th, 2013 12:35 PM

don't really know sir. I just read it from one of the fuel discussion threads here in tsikot.

I'm thinking if traffic/road condition is really bad here, then it would mostly affect your fuel economy for city driving. However, based on your findings and tests, even on highway driving, you are just getting around 7km/l. I think our highways here in general are pretty good already, smooth wide open roads, like NLEX. So if you are still getting low fuel mileage, then maybe there are other reasons too. So I'm just speculating that maybe one of that could be the fuel here.

Also read an article about Mazda 6 where it says they aren't bringing the Skyactiv Diesel variant here because they have a strict policy on fuel quality. Whether they meant fuel quality here is bad or not up to international standards, that I do not know

Sadly, Berjaya Auto Philippines can't bring in the SKYACTIV-D (diesel) engine yet, because Mazda has a strict policy on fuel quality.

**LoBudget** · April 11th, 2013 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by cfule

is that true? is there a gasoline regardless of brand that does not contain 10% ethanol? heck even diesel i think is being mixed with it

If their website is accurate then Petron Blaze 100 is bioethanol free.

**LoBudget** · April 11th, 2013 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by cfule

my friend recently bought a 2013 honda CRV 2.4 4x4 top of the line, he drives around manila, and the trip computer says that he's doing 5km/L lifetime, he had the car last January. it's good to know (placebo effect) that my 240HP XT is a little better on FC than his 170HP CRV

I read it somewhere on some subaru forum or blog that fuel consumption gets better after the first 3000kms. I dont know if this is because the car really adjusted or if the drivers arent just flooring it as often anymore. Try using intelligent mode only for the next 3 re-fills see if that has any effect.

**koji kabuto** · April 11th, 2013 08:23 PM

A review by our local automotive journalist, Ulysses Ang on Carguide PH. He stated some impressive FC for both NA and XT version, and it was done on local roads.

************ - Philippine Car News, Test Drives, and Prices: The Epic Journey: Driving the 2013 Subaru Forester to Sagada

2.0i-L = 15km/L

2.0XT = 13km/L ( 7km/L if you have a heavy foot ).

I wonder how he was able to achieve these FC.

**NeilJohn** · April 11th, 2013 09:01 PM

I have read this review several times as I am keenly looking at the forester. In this review, he stated that these mileage are attained during motorway drives. The fresh (<2000 km) unit I have test driven at MI has an average consumption of ~20l/100 km (5 km/l) note that this is a test drive unit and only does less than 5 km per run, so expect the fuel mileage to be low, unless it was driven somewhere else. Add to this, test drive units are pushed hard when test drivers sees an opportunity (I certainly did, even if it was just for a few seconds).

Originally Posted by koji kabuto

A review by our local automotive journalist, Ulysses Ang on Carguide PH. He stated some impressive FC for both NA and XT version, and it was done on local roads.

************ - Philippine Car News, Test Drives, and Prices: The Epic Journey: Driving the 2013 Subaru Forester to Sagada

2.0i-L = 15km/L

2.0XT = 13km/L ( 7km/L if you have a heavy foot ).

I wonder how he was able to achieve these FC.

**yose** · April 11th, 2013 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by cfule

is that true? is there a gasoline regardless of brand that does not contain 10% ethanol? heck even diesel i think is being mixed with it

Lahat meron. Its the law. Gasoline is being blended with 10% ethanol and diesel with 2% CME. The percentage will increase over the years.

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**cfule** · April 11th, 2013 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by koji kabuto

A review by our local automotive journalist, Ulysses Ang on Carguide PH. He stated some impressive FC for both NA and XT version, and it was done on local roads.

************ - Philippine Car News, Test Drives, and Prices: The Epic Journey: Driving the 2013 Subaru Forester to Sagada

2.0i-L = 15km/L

2.0XT = 13km/L ( 7km/L if you have a heavy foot ).

I wonder how he was able to achieve these FC.

yeah iv read that on the day it was posted, kaya mas na-excite ako makuha na yung XT ko, pero di pala ganun katipid hehe

if you've backread, iv said that you can achieve this only through SLEX, NLEX, SCTEX where you can go 100kph constantly for 1hour or so, much better if you use the cruise control. BUT, when we go to our destination, hindi lang naman palaging expressway e, you have to go in and out of cities where you intend to go, you use city streets, you use national hiway, me bus titigil para magbaba ng pasahero and u have to slow down. so in REAL world mostly hiway driving, i dont think you can achieve 13km/L, this is coming from an XT owner. and i don't mash the accelerator or spool the turbo that much, yung tamang pang overtake lang pag kelangan.

for reference, my previous car is a 2.0 2006 civic paddleshift, already had 105,000kms on it. driving the same route i take, quezon-manila-quezon, usually mga 280kms yung total sa isang trip, i do about 9to10km/L with mashing the throttle. pag city driving within quezon, mga 6.5to7.5km/L. on the XT using the same route, mga 6to6.5km/L hiway, sa city 5to5.5km/L

**supermanila** · April 11th, 2013 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by yose

Lahat meron. Its the law. Gasoline is being blended with 10% ethanol and diesel with 2% CME. The percentage will increase over the years.

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I think Petron Blaze is bioethanol free sir. That's what I read from their website, and from other forumers in the fuel section. I believe XCS used to be bioethanol free as well before, but isn't the case anymore as indicated in Petron's website.