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    #201
    Tangnang NBI puro mock raid sa sauna bath Lang magaling para libre popoy.

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    #202
    While it may be that the December 14, 2010 SC thoroughly discussed why Webb et.al are entitled to a verdict of acquittal, the more exhaustive dissenting opinion of J. Villarama merits an approval in giving credence to the decisions of the lower and appellate courts.

    Here's J. Villarama's dissent:

    More important, Alfaro’s testimony was sufficiently corroborated on its material points, not only by the physical evidence, but also by the testimonies of four (4) disinterested witnesses for the prosecution: White, Jr., Cabanacan, Gaviola and Birrer.*

    The decision did not discuss head-on why the testimonies of the four others should be jettisoned.

    http://sc.judiciary.gov.ph/jurisprud..._villarama.htm

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    #203
    question.... why was there no fingerprints mentioned on the site? wala ba daw nakuha? or di ko lang nabasa... i already backreaded the thread from the start...

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    #204
    Quote Originally Posted by ab_initio View Post
    While it may be that the December 14, 2010 SC thoroughly discussed why Webb et.al are entitled to a verdict of acquittal, the more exhaustive dissenting opinion of J. Villarama merits an approval in giving credence to the decisions of the lower and appellate courts.

    Here's J. Villarama's dissent:

    More important, Alfaro’s testimony was sufficiently corroborated on its material points, not only by the physical evidence, but also by the testimonies of four (4) disinterested witnesses for the prosecution: White, Jr., Cabanacan, Gaviola and Birrer.*

    The decision did not discuss head-on why the testimonies of the four others should be jettisoned.

    http://sc.judiciary.gov.ph/jurisprud..._villarama.htm

    I believe the majority opinion did discuss it.

    The supposed labandera who said she saw Hubert Webb with the bloody shirt was employed by the family only until April 1991 (as certified by her agency). The murders happened in June or July of that year which means that she could not have been there.

    As for the security guards, the Court pointed out inconsistencies like why they would distinctly remember Webb to have entered the subdivision yet not log it in their journal as per SOP. Also, their recall of the vehicles which came into the subdivision was called into question.

    As to Birrer, I don't recall anymore. But, if she testified as to overhearing Biong talking to someone over the phone, isn't it that the most it can prove is that Biong was speaking to someone? It doesn't prove the identity of the caller nor the tenor of the conversation as she wasn't privy to what the other party was saying.
    Last edited by Altis6453; December 17th, 2010 at 11:25 AM.

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    #205
    In other words may duda..pag meron kahit konting pag dududa e wala na yun

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    #206
    The witnesses were unreliable since they may have also been coached. Otherwise they have SELECTIVE MEMORIES. They gave very vivid account yet where unable to recall what they did on other days...

    But Cabanacan's testimony could not be relied on. Although it was not common for a security guard to challenge a Congressman’s son with such vehemence, Cabanacan did not log the incident on the guardhouse book. Nor did he, contrary to prescribed procedure, record the visitor’s entry into the subdivision. It did not make sense that Cabanacan was strict in the matter of seeing Webb’s ID but not in recording the visit.


    On cross-examination, however, Gaviola could not say what distinguished June 30, 1991 from the other days she was on service at the Webb household as to enable her to distinctly remember, four years later, what one of the Webb boys did and at what time. She could not remember any of the details that happened in the household on the other days. She proved to have a selective photographic memory and this only damaged her testimony.
    http://sc.judiciary.gov.ph/jurisprud...389.htm#_ftn51

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    #207
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    The witnesses were unreliable since they may have also been coached. Otherwise they have SELECTIVE MEMORIES. They gave very vivid account yet where unable to recall what they did on other days...


    http://sc.judiciary.gov.ph/jurisprud...389.htm#_ftn51
    That's just it.

    It would appear that the witnesses were coached into saying what they testified to in open court.

    I also find it quite hard to believe that the maid recalled that particular incident in great detail and testified before the trial court about it almost four years after the murders occurred.

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    #208
    yan ang nakakatakot dito sa atin.. nag pro produce nang mga witness na hindi naman totoo just to convict someone and to close the case.. fabricated lahat.. hayyyyy

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    #209
    as I've said no need to discuss yun alibi ni Hubert. yun burden of proof palang ng prosecution eh bulok na, they can't back up their accusation so hinde na kailangan ng alibi.

    go NBI!!!

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    #210
    So who's the top dog the ex Bf of Alfaro is talkin about?

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