DOLE: Millions at risk if next president abolishes contractualization

**b_9904** · April 25th, 2016 08:57 PM

DOLE: Millions at risk if next president abolishes contractualization | mb.com.ph | Philippine News

In a nutshell, there is legal 555 like in building condos, or temps. However, even in illegal 555s you have to ask: where is the meritocracy?

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**cast_no_shadow** · April 25th, 2016 09:04 PM

Sa Government office pa lang.

May contractual, may casual, may project based/job orders.

You just can't regularize everyone since items/plantillas are limited.

You just can't create new items since this should be DBM approved

Another scenario some are not civil service eligible.

Andame dyan tumanda na sa haba ng service hindi parin maipasa ang CSE kaya hindi sila mapermanent item.

Sa private sector I don't know ano impact neto. Goodluck kay Henry Sy at Tan Caktiong.

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**macsd** · April 25th, 2016 09:05 PM

How stupid of DOLE to press the alarm button. They should be the one to protect workers right yet they are the first to panic. Ineptitude at the highest for Baldoz, matandang inutil tulad ng amo. Baldoz, Department of Labor and Employment kayo hindi Employer.

**b_9904** · April 25th, 2016 10:04 PM

Macsd: check the labor code bro. Project (condo, bridges, etc) and time (Brent doctrine) based employees are legal forms of contractialization.

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**b_9904** · April 25th, 2016 10:16 PM

Cast mo shadow: tawag dyan ay barrier to entry lol

Sa private at in re: SM. Ever got frustrated na hindi marunong yung sales lady na kausap mo?

There is your answer perhaps.

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**cast_no_shadow** · April 25th, 2016 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by b_9904

Cast mo shadow: tawag dyan ay barrier to entry lol

Sa private at in re: SM. Ever got frustrated na hindi marunong yung sales lady na kausap mo?

There is your answer perhaps.

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OT

Yep at MOA we are looking for Dencios kung meron. Se dept store kami tinuro nung concierge.

**macsd** · April 25th, 2016 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by b_9904

Macsd: check the labor code bro. Project (condo, bridges, etc) and time (Brent doctrine) based employees are legal forms of contractialization.

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I am refering to contractual employment that is replenish by another contractual employment predominant in manufacturing, services sectors and the likes.

Project base contractualization is legal.

**b_9904** · April 25th, 2016 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by macsd

I am refering to contractual employment that is replenish by another contractual employment predominant in manufacturing, services sectors and the likes.

Project base contractualization is legal.

Which is exactly the DOLEs position.

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**eryxon** · April 25th, 2016 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow

Sa Government office pa lang.

May contractual, may casual, may project based/job orders.

You just can't regularize everyone since items/plantillas are limited.

You just can't create new items since this should be DBM approved

Another scenario some are not civil service eligible.

Andame dyan tumanda na sa haba ng service hindi parin maipasa ang CSE kaya hindi sila mapermanent item.

Sa private sector I don't know ano impact neto. Goodluck kay Henry Sy at Tan Caktiong.

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Sa totoo lang hindi kailangan ng Contractual at Casual sa Government office. Ang mga regular ay enough na. Tamad lang ang mga regular at ayaw kumilos unfortunately hindi sila basta basta matanggal sa pwesto para palitan na mas masipag na empleyado.

Galing ako sa government office at nakita ko kung pano kumilos ang may plantilya at ang mga contractual. Ang mga contractual ang gumagawa ng trabaho ng regular at ang mga empleyado na regular panay ang leave at kung saan saan napapadpad sa oras ng trabaho.

You can not create new plantillas coz its not needed. Buti pa kung mga teacher ang gawan nila ng plantillas dahil kulang ang mga teacher talaga.

Bakit ayaw nilang tanggalin ang contractual sa gobyerno? Kasi madami dyan ghost employee.

**b_9904** · April 25th, 2016 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow

OT

Yep at MOA we are looking for Dencios kung meron. Se dept store kami tinuro nung concierge.

Hence, if these guys have real skills I doubt they would be sitting on the concierge all day.

So, this answers SOME of the questions why SM, et al. has contractuals replacing other contractuals

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