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    #171
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    normally the test drive units are pushed harder than normal. the fc display must always be reset.
    I did reset the fc display and thats what i got, 6km/l😩

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    #172
    Claimed FC figures are usually achieved during standardized controlled tests. I never believe the trip computer FC. I get much more accurate measurements using the fuel tank top off method, but still I'm under no illusion that in real world situations I'll be getting anywhere near the published FC.

    We should factor in not just the FC but the purchase and running costs as well. Today's turbodiesels are very heavy on maintenance. They require more frequent filter and fluid changes, a lot more oil (more expensive oil as well), expensive filters, and parts are expensive (EGR valve, cat, turbo, fuel pump, injectors, etc). It's either you pay at the pump with gassers or at the shop with oilers.

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    #173
    Quote Originally Posted by babybackrivs View Post
    I did reset the fc display and thats what i got, 6km/l��
    do you remember the route distance driven for that 6km/l average?

    try your current vehicle's trip computer at the same route..with a fresh reset of the trip computer.

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    #174
    I drove a 4x2 2.0L X-trail at NLEX last week. I tried to keep the speed to just 80km/h & just going above 100 km/h to overtake and the computer yielded 16 Km/L.

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    #175
    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r View Post
    Claimed FC figures are usually achieved during standardized controlled tests. I never believe the trip computer FC. I get much more accurate measurements using the fuel tank top off method, but still I'm under no illusion that in real world situations I'll be getting anywhere near the published FC.

    We should factor in not just the FC but the purchase and running costs as well. Today's turbodiesels are very heavy on maintenance. They require more frequent filter and fluid changes, a lot more oil (more expensive oil as well), expensive filters, and parts are expensive (EGR valve, cat, turbo, fuel pump, injectors, etc). It's either you pay at the pump with gassers or at the shop with oilers.
    The new Nissan Xtrail was surely a looker when I saw the unit and after reading your input sir, I'm now thinking if this could be a good or better replacement for my Montero. Hmmm

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    #176
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    do you remember the route distance driven for that 6km/l average?

    try your current vehicle's trip computer at the same route..with a fresh reset of the trip computer.
    Yes i do, we'll try next time when we have time

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    #177
    Quote Originally Posted by Fulcrum View Post
    I drove a 4x2 2.0L X-trail at NLEX last week. I tried to keep the speed to just 80km/h & just going above 100 km/h to overtake and the computer yielded 16 Km/L.
    ayaw ng xtrail takbong 80kph lang sir :D

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    #178
    Quote Originally Posted by carwhacko View Post
    The new Nissan Xtrail was surely a looker when I saw the unit and after reading your input sir, I'm now thinking if this could be a good or better replacement for my Montero. Hmmm
    Thank you sir, but with anything, YMMV. If you know someone who brings in parts or if you sell your car early on before the major parts need replacing you might save a bit on diesel. I'm just shocked at the price of modern diesel parts these days. A cousin was quoted 20K for a Toyota EGR valve.

    I'm confident the new MR20DD will be more frugal on fuel than the old QR20DE (2.0L). Everything points to better FC: higher compression ratio, direct injection vs multipoint injection, more efficient CVT, more aerodynamic body.

    What I'd like to know is if this new X-trail's QR25DE has the same changes made to it as the 2014 US Rogue. We know the compression ratio is higher, but not much info on other changes that they may have made (or not) to the cylinder head, intake, etc. What the 2.5 has going for it in the FC department is the higher compression ratio, more efficient CVT and aerodynamics. So it will probably do a little better (at least) than the older gen X-trail.

    I hope in the future Nissan at least changes the name or at least update the names of their engines when they change something! So consumers will at least know if there were improvements made or not. Currently they use the same old engine codes for updated engines.

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    #179
    According to Indenesian websites

    The engine is new and code name is QR25DE-K2 Twin-CVTC or Dual-CVTC.

    I still can't verify if its a dual injector engine.
    Last edited by StockEngine; November 11th, 2014 at 07:50 AM.

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    #180
    6km/L is normal for any 2L engine nowadays. I get 6.3km/L with my 1st gen Xtrail in pure city driving with mix heavy traffic. I should be able to get 6.8km/L with the new Xtrail as my foot is already Eco mode by default.

    They should have used the Serena engine with start stop in the 4x4 version. I think it's QR25DD. The QR25DE is getting outdated already.

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