Maids not Allowed to use Regular Elevators in Condo Building.

[Manilablock]

Un unit owner feeling nya mas above sha sa katulong, pero pag asa office si unit owner e utos utusan lan naman din ng boss nya.

[ClaNker]

Nakaka baba kasi ng pagkatao pag mga atsay ang kasabayan mo sa elevator. Madaming ganyang tao.

[_Qwerty_]

matagal na tong ginagawa sa ibang condo sa Fort.. pati driver pati aso.. service elevator lang sila pwede..

[Monseratto]

To give the "posh" condo a sense of exclusivity...hehehe.

MANILA, Philippines – Would you be okay with sharing your condominium's elevator with other tenants' housemaids or drivers?

Some netizens think that would be "discriminatory," "disgusting," and "horrible." They are reacting to a photo of a condo memorandum telling unit owners and tenants to remind their household employees to "strictly use the service elevator only" that's going around on Facebook.

"The administration office has had a number of enquiries from owners in the building on why helpers are using the Passenger Elevators when only Unit Owners / Tenants and their guests are allowed to the Passenger Elevators," reads the notice from the management of the Icon Residences at the posh Bonifacio Global City in Taguig.

Discrimination?

The post started a conversation on Facebook and received negative feedback from some social media users.

"When Filipino maids in Hong Kong get banned from using the 'regular' elevators (you know, the ones that 'regular' people use), the country throws a hissy fit. Guess what? It's happening in our own backyard," said Poch Ceballos, the uploader of the post.

Some said that it's not only "the fault" of the management but also of the "snooty owners."

"Tell the snobbish unit owners they just bought the unit, not the whole building," Bianca Lawas commented on the post in Filipino.

"The complaints from tenants are/could not be justified, the policy should not have come out in the first place," said Jed Yabut.

According to Benj Espina, however, "It is a thing for a lot of condos."

"That actually is the policy in several condos here in Makati," Patricia Oliva-Valencia added.

'Just a building policy'

Rappler got in touch with Katherine Garrido, the property manager and the signee of the memorandum, who said it's "just a policy of the building."

"There's no issue. It's not for the world. It's just for the building. It has been a policy ever since the building was created," said Garrido.

"It's hard to please everyone, but this is just how the world is," she added.

What is your take on this matter? Do you know of other condo units with the same policy? – Rappler.com

When condo policy bans drivers, maids from 'normal' elevators

[Lew_Alcindor]

what's the issue? sa FB mo nanaman nakuha noh? mga tao sa FB mga epal, mga journalist wannabe...

I don;t see anything wrong with the policy.

There is something wrong when do not see what is wrong with this policy.
I understand pets not being allowed in the main elevators. But maids?

What is wrong is you see maids in the same elevator as the owners?

Funny thing is Filipinos complain of discrimination abroad or elsewhere when we do it to our fellow Filipinos.

[badkuk]

E pano yung mga me Dakilang Alalay, magkikita na lang sila sa pupuntahang floor?

Service elevators are typically very slow, most likely it will stop at all floors going up/down since all of them are waiting on it. Deliveries, garbage, etc also use service elevators, so most likely they're full most of the time.

Babalik din yan sa mga amo. Pag nagpabili yan ng McDo, etc. matatagalan kasi di makasakay si Inday.

imho, mas me punto if they limit deliveries, garbage collection etc to service elevators. Madudungisan yung main elevators niyan. Taking the above as is, ang OE naman.

Regarding the DHs in HK: i guess mas OK sa atin kung Pinoy ang nag aapi sa kapwa Pinoy, kesa banyaga yung nag aapi. Hypocrites

[Monty]

Badkuk, agree ako dyan.

[Balikpinoy]

Somewhat related, based on board meeting notes from our condo unit, one resident requested that female guests of foreign tenants/owners be subjected to a "decent" dress code upon entering the building or in public areas. It was turned down as being unenforceable! LoL!

[Monseratto]

Since then, a lively debate on the merits of this policy has erupted with some commentors noting that such policies are commonplace in buildings all over the Philippines. Indeed, in most Filipino households, domestic employees hold a very low place — and are constantly reminded of that place as a matter of family tradition. Filipino maids are often relegated to sleeping on floors and in cramped windowless mosquito-infested “maids’ quarters” which are often just converted pantries and storage rooms.

The Philippines’ Republic Act 10361 or the Batas Kasambahay (Domestic Workers’ Act) has been in effect since March of 2013. The law seeks to raise living standards for the millions of domestic workers toiling in Philippine households by, among others, implementing higher minimum wages, formalising the sector by requiring employment contracts, and mandating social safety net coverage through the Social Security System (SSS), the Philippine Health Insurance Corporation (PhilHealth), and the Home Development Mutual Fund (Pag-IBIG).

But the sub-human treatment of maids and other household help in the Philippines has continued despite scores of outrage fads erupting in recent years mainly focused, interestingly enough, on the treatment of Filipino domestic workers overseas, particularly in Hong Kong and Singapore where thousands of them — many of whom are university-educated — are employed

Back in June this year, an Al Jazeera report described how, in a Singapore mall, domestic workers from Indonesia, the Philippines, and Myanmar were on display on store windows, sometimes advertised as being on “super promo” or “special discount” rates. The report sparked a furor over what was regarded as a degrading commoditisation of migrant workers in Singapore. No less than the Philippines’ Vice President Jejomar ‘Jojo’ Binay reportedly expressed “deep concern” over the report calling on the Philippine embassy there to “make proper representations with the Singapore authorities” to investigate this “indignity” these workers are seemingly suffering.

Stepping back to take a broader perspective, it can be noted that the perceived stereotyping of Filipinos as domestic workers by the global community has been a source of outrage for many Filipinos. At almost the same time the furor over maids-on-display in Singapore came to light, another “racism” row erupted in Hong Kong over the depiction of Filipinos as maids in school textbooks.

Indeed, when seeing the elevator access issue from the point-of-view of the Philippines’ luxury condo administrators and their well-heeled owners and tenants, some insight may be drawn from this collective national insecurity. The Philippines, despite its aspirations to becoming a modern democratic egalitarian nation, remains a severely socially-stratified society with hard cultural lines dividing the landed classes consisting of fair-skinned Filipinos descended from the country’s former Spanish and American colonial masters, the mercantile classes dominated by the Filipino-Chinese and Korean community, and the vast “99 percent” working masa classes consisting mainly of the dark-skinned indigenous island population often referred to as the Indios. The legacy of colonial rule in the Philippines remains so potent that the marketing of skin whitening products and surgical procedures that obliterate indio facial features are hugely profitable billion-peso industries in the Philippines. And most revealing of all, the archetypical Filipino showbiz celebrity is overwhelmingly fair-skinned and “blessed” with caucasian or North Asian physical features.

Suffice to say, this recent “racism” incident involving the banning of maids’ access to condo elevators is but the tip of the iceberg of a profound cultural malaise that continues to grip Philippine society much to the consternation of “progressive” new-age “activists” and politicians who espouse modern notions of equality and freedom. Unless Filipinos learn to evaluate these realities about their cultural character with eyes wide open, the Philippines’ “social volcano” will continue to rumble, and may one day erupt violently.

http://getrealphilippines.com/blog/2...luxury-condos/

[_Cathy_]

Somewhat related, based on board meeting notes from our condo unit, one resident requested that female guests of foreign tenants/owners be subjected to a "decent" dress code upon entering the building or in public areas. It was turned down as being unenforceable! LoL!

If these "guests" are what I think they are then those foreign tenants/owners are what I would call nuisance neighbors. I feel for the resident that made the complaint.