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    #21
    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    Hehehe...Mazda's iStop, unlike other systems, doesn't use the starter to restart the engine. The higher spec'd batt is there for loads other than recranking.
    I've been using trickle chargers on regular cars w/ regular batts, doc. Though they've proven to double the average Motolite life, I still lost faith in that batt brand. Without the charger, they seem to last, kinda precisely, as long as their warranty....it's amazing.[emoji13]

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    ah!
    TIL!
    thank you.
    kinda like push-starting of olde.

    so now, i'm curious...
    what's with the seemingly-lousy battery?
    or, is it possible, tinipid nila yung alternator natin?
    heh heh.
    Last edited by dr. d; November 8th, 2019 at 01:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    I did some Googling earlier and came upon a post from a guy whose iStop-equipped Mazda, at the date of his posting, has just reached 10,000 km. The app on his phone says that the iStop system, after driving 10,000km, saved him 24km worth of gas. lol... That's like 0.24% fuel savings. So on average, for every 50L of fuel you've used up, you're saving 125ml or about P6.25.

    How can you recover enough money to replace the battery every so and so months?

    I know part of the idea behind this feature was to go green... That, I am aware of. But come on.... all that inconvenience and expense to save an almost negligible amount of fuel?

    Granted, YMWV depending on who's driving. Well, I just thought it was funny.

    Here it is: How to disable i-stop PERMANENTLY in 1 seconds | 24 to 216 Mazda 3 Forum and Mazdaspeed 3 Forums
    When I was shopping 3s back in '14, I weighed having the 2.0 against the hobo 1.5 I got & still have. iStop turned on turned me off. The EFB/AGM need tipped me over. The old school low tech dino w/in was just way too dominant.[emoji13]


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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    ah!
    TIL!
    thank you.
    kinda like push-starting of olde.

    so now, i'm curious...
    what's with the seemingly-lousy battery?
    or, is it possible, tinipid nila yung alternator natin?
    heh heh.
    The Motolite EFB was priced like those it failed to be, doc. What owners are complaining is about something they long knew upon getting the iStop equipped...thrice pricier battery that won't last twice longer than regular flooded ones on non-iStop cars.
    That's why you're hearing a voice in the wilderness yelling CTEK, CTEK, CTEK CT5 Start/Stop...I just dunno who's listening.[emoji13]

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    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    The Motolite EFB was priced like those it failed to be, doc. What owners are complaining is about something they long knew upon getting the iStop equipped...thrice pricier battery that won't last twice longer than regular flooded ones on non-iStop cars.
    That's why you're hearing a voice in the wilderness yelling CTEK, CTEK, CTEK CT5 Start/Stop...I just dunno who's listening.[emoji13]

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    perhaps if someone were to come up with a fabrication or gadget, that would make it very easy for the owner to hook the ctek to the battery, without even opening the hood.
    something like an oversized earphone jack in the car, whereupon motorista simply jacks in the plug and walks away.

    my relative is a proponent of frequent trickle charging, and he says it really extends the life of his battery. but i personally found the procedure, too hassle.
    Last edited by dr. d; November 8th, 2019 at 01:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    perhaps if someone were to come up with a fabrication or gadget, that would make it very easy for the owner to hook the ctek to the battery, without even opening the hood.
    something like an oversized earphone jack in the car, whereupon motorista simply jacks in the plug and walks away.

    my relative is a proponent of frequent trickle charging, and he says it really extends the life of his battery. but i personally found the procedure, too hassle.
    Long been figured by em makers, doc. CTEK calls em Comfort Connect. You can run the plug out the grille or the cowl vent...whichever feasible, doc. The 2nd pic is for the older Deltran Battery Tender. They're similar.


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    #26
    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    You can permanently turn it off, sir. Just flip the bonnet latch switch to fool the system into thinking 'open'. The trick is reversible.[emoji4]


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    I have seen that workaround, but that affects the car's alarm system which won't engage.

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    #27
    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    Optima YellowTop is another Johnson Controls brand. A very good AGM, a superior option.[emoji106] Hope you can share its size equivalent to Q85s, sir. Try extending its service life even further w/ a CTek...for the archives.
    Thanks for sharing, sir.[emoji106]

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    It's a Yellow Top D35. I sourced it from Absolute Autworks, at Banawe, 24 months warranty. I certainly hope it lasts longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ecport View Post
    I have seen that workaround, but that affects the car's alarm system which won't engage.
    A simple way is to keep the AC thermostat at the lowest temp setting. iStop won't likely launch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    A simple way is to keep the AC thermostat at the lowest temp setting. iStop won't likely launch.

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    Yes, I did this and it works at 18°C.

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    Fc suffers tho. I mean even with cars without i-stop

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