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    #841
    Quote Originally Posted by cyberian View Post
    Using the Shell V-Power Nitro+ yielded the worst city FC yet, 5.41km/L! Not only that, the lower RON Nitro+ gave me the dreaded engine "knocking" sound on at least 4 occasions with the last one the noise is so loud when accelerating in A/T mode doing 40+km/hr that my wife seating on the front noticed and asked "unsa nang banha?!" ("what is that noise?!). Hirap umakyat, mabagal mag accelerate and the engine emitted a louder growl because the lower power made my foot pressing on the accelerator harder. I'll stay away from Shell from now on since I can't seem to find any Nitro+ Racing available locally here in Cagayan de Oro City.

    I am now using Caltex GOLD for my next fc evaluation with "ECO" on to make the comparison more or less fair among fuel yields. My current mileage is 715km.
    Parang knocking & low power issue ng Accent 1.4 AT yan ah. I suggest pacheck mo sa casa, baka need ng ecu reflash katulad ng hyundai accent. Hindi dapat ganyan kababa ang fuel efficiency & power output nyan. Just my thought..

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    #842
    Quote Originally Posted by weisshorn View Post
    Parang knocking & low power issue ng Accent 1.4 AT yan ah. I suggest pacheck mo sa casa, baka need ng ecu reflash katulad ng hyundai accent. Hindi dapat ganyan kababa ang fuel efficiency & power output nyan. Just my thought..
    Thanks a lot sir weisshorn. I am building a case to present to Kia casa come 1st PMS and your input on accent cases helps.

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    #843
    Curious lang, bakit parang ang layo ata ng FC ng Rio sa Accent?

    Sa pagbabasa ko sa Accent threads, nasa 9 km/L yung mga naka 1.4AT sa city driving. Eh yung mga naka-Rio na 6 km/L, that's almost 50% higher FC.

    Parang imposibleng normal na ganyan kalaki ang disparity, kahit pa sabihing iba yung pagka-tune ng engine. The cars are based on the same platform and have roughly the same curb weight.

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    #844
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Curious lang, bakit parang ang layo ata ng FC ng Rio sa Accent?

    Sa pagbabasa ko sa Accent threads, nasa 9 km/L yung mga naka 1.4AT sa city driving. Eh yung mga naka-Rio na 6 km/L, that's almost 50% higher FC.

    Parang imposibleng normal na ganyan kalaki ang disparity, kahit pa sabihing iba yung pagka-tune ng engine. The cars are based on the same platform and have roughly the same curb weight.
    ^ The same as what I thought.
    My brother 1.4L accent ay di naman ganyan katakaw sa gas tulad ng Rio ni sir Cyberian. Wala din akong narinig na knocking or low power issue from his driver. Sa aking pananaw ang Rio ni sir Cyberian ay may issue. Dapat agapan na kaagad at dito natin malaman kung ano at paano ang reaction ni KIA. Pag mabilis nila ma-fix ang problema eh malaking tulong so as not to sway away prospective buyers.

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    #845
    Here's a pics of my city fc evaluation in case of any doubt:

    http://imageshack.us/f/24/kiariocityfc.jpg/

    As you will see my manual computations of actual fuel consumptions (city driving in Cagayan de Oro City) are below 6km/L!

    For full text on this report kindly refer to my post on page 85 of this thread.

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    #846
    Same case with the Accent, some units get a normal 8-10km/L range some get a low-4km/L consumption.

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    #847
    Quote Originally Posted by weisshorn View Post
    ^ The same as what I thought.
    My brother 1.4L accent ay di naman ganyan katakaw sa gas tulad ng Rio ni sir Cyberian. Wala din akong narinig na knocking or low power issue from his driver. Sa aking pananaw ang Rio ni sir Cyberian ay may issue. Dapat agapan na kaagad at dito natin malaman kung ano at paano ang reaction ni KIA. Pag mabilis nila ma-fix ang problema eh malaking tulong so as not to sway away prospective buyers.
    Factors that probably affect the fc of rio hatch (when compared to accent)are the ff:
    - 17" rims
    - features like eco mode, auto climate, etc.
    - power to weight. Rio is heavier.

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    #848
    Quote Originally Posted by renzo_d10 View Post
    Same case with the Accent, some units get a normal 8-10km/L range some get a low-4km/L consumption.
    May mga nagpost na ba na naka-1.4L Rio na nasa ~9 km/L yung FC? Puro mabababa nakikita ko sa thread na 'to eh, baka namiss out ko yung may normal FC.

    Quote Originally Posted by reuelc View Post
    Factors that probably affect the fc of rio hatch (when compared to accent)are the ff:
    - 17" rims
    - features like eco mode, auto climate, etc.
    - power to weight. Rio is heavier.
    Uh, the Rio 5-door weighs 1068 kg, while the 1.4 GL Accent weighs 1115 kg.

    Auto climate control won't affect your FC, that's a pretty weird connection to make.

    The rims may affect FC by about 1 km/L at most due to greater rolling resistance, but not double the car's consumption.

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    #849
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    May mga nagpost na ba na naka-1.4L Rio na nasa ~9 km/L yung FC? Puro mabababa nakikita ko sa thread na 'to eh, baka namiss out ko yung may normal FC.



    Uh, the Rio 5-door weighs 1068 kg, while the 1.4 GL Accent weighs 1115 kg.

    Auto climate control won't affect your FC, that's a pretty weird connection to make.

    The rims may affect FC by about 1 km/L at most due to greater rolling resistance, but not double the car's consumption.
    What makes it weird? Basic logic: at vs manual. Not a fact but possible.

    Rio hatch curb weight is 1068 while accent 1.4at is 1060 based on brochure. Still looks negligible though.

    I hope this is just an isolated case.

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    #850
    Quote Originally Posted by reuelc View Post
    Factors that probably affect the fc of rio hatch (when compared to accent)are the ff:
    - 17" rims
    - features like eco mode, auto climate, etc.
    - power to weight. Rio is heavier.
    Sir reuelc, your assumptions are correct and if you happen to ask any Kia dealership on the fc I am sure the answer would be: 1.4 sedan = 9-10km/L city, 12 highway; hatchback 8-9km/L city, 12 highway. Apparently the figures already cover the factors you observed. But I wonder why the 1.2 sedan model has better fc considering it's power to weight ratio is really poor compared to the Rio5.

    Not only those are the numbers (sited above) they gave in reply to my inquiries on several occasions prior to the purchase, I also happened to asked again from 2 sales agents last week on my visit to the casa to get the license plate. Same inquiry, same reply and felt I just been screwed!

    If they just tell me straight to my face that my laughable fc figures of 5.4-5.9km/L is appropriate for this model (Rio5) in the city then I will just rest and live with it.

    Anyway, I'll just wait for the 1st PMS to come if there is any improvement before making conclusion on the fc.

    By the way, a friend of mine has a civic 1.8S with an 18" rims + wide rubbers. His fc is way better at 8km/L city. Side by side, my Rio5 is obviously small, short, lighter and less powerful. Why it sucked fuel so bad is beyond anyone's logic unless technology is brought into the equation. Whatever it is, people gasped in disbelief upon hearing my fc. It is that bad and I hate being asked every time.

2012 Kia Rio