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April 23rd, 2011 01:28 AM #653heyy guysss, need help, im confused now.. im planning to buy pick up this year, and considering izuzu LX, but what i read on post, looks like izuzu is outdated, compared to any brand. is it correct?.. if even it is outdated to other brand but still can compete on the FC and POwer can you plss tell me the advantages of taking izuzu brand compared to strada glx 2.5..
for owners of dmax LX 3.0, can you please tell me your FC per km?.. tnx
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April 23rd, 2011 12:07 PM #654^back read a little bit sir. with what you're asking for, you're adding wood to the fire...
i can say for sure that the dmax is fuel efficient. some say (here) they did up to 18km/l in highway drive.
no i dont own one, but ive driven some. i did 11km/l easy.
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April 23rd, 2011 12:22 PM #655[SIZE=4]YES[/SIZE], the DMax "3.0 Ddi-iTEQ" is OUTDATED compared to all the other pickups in the local market today, except the Chinese one
. It still uses the "almost 8-year old now" 4JJ1-TC CRDi-only non-VGS equipped engine, and cost just the same as the others. But, it is still a good pickup just not better than the rest....
However, if you ever end up with the current Philippine-version DMax LX or LS "3.0 Ddi-iTEQ", you can have it tuned at the reputable Speedlab Racing Tech in Quezon Avenue (one of the owners is Mr. Ferman Lao of TopGear Phils. and President of CAGI) ----
---- the tech shop sells a diesel EFi-tuning chip called Unichip. Installation plus dyno-tuning, it cost around PhP30,000 all-cost-in. According to a lot of sources and to the people at Speedlab, you will gain around 25 hp more (rear wheel hp), and around plus 40 to 70 Nm of torque for a typical 3-litre CRDi-diesel pickup like the DMax "3.0 Ddi-iTEQ".... You will also have an improved fuel-efficiency as many users have testifed. I'm also looking to avail it for my DMax-siado LS as the cheaper tuning chip alternative to the more expensive DPChip of Berrima Diesels in Mandaluyong. The DPChip is an Australian product and Berrima Diesels is also an Aussie-based company.
And of course, the same thing goes for the 3-litre Hilux D4-D, 3-litre Ranger TDCi and Mazda BT-50, and the 3.2-litre Strada Di-D. Look into Speedlab's website and see the notable gain from the 3-litre Hilux D4-D where it gained torque from 380 Nm to 450 Nm with this chip alone....
Check Speedlab, Quezon Ave. and its Unichip here:
http://www.speedlab.com.ph/
http://www.speedlab.com.ph/unichip.php
Under the Unichip page, you may click on the 3-litre Toyota Hilux D4-D and see how much it gained from this tuning chip alone.
i take it, however, chief that you're aware of the void in warranty once you add mod to your newly-purchased DMax....
Now, as far as fuel consumption is concerned, remember that in October 2010, Isuzu Phils. and Automobile Assoc. of the Phils. conducted an economy run for the 3-litre DMax LX 4x2 manual-tranny. It travelled 1844 km in 76 litres of full-tank giving it a fuel mileage of 24.26 km per litre. Runs like this at times, or in certain legs, utilise some form of traffic police serving as "hawi boys" that favours the run, plus this October 2010 run was conducted during the wet season; meaning the air is relatively colder and it carries more oxygen per volume of air compared to hot air.
You may also refer to our own personal observations in this forum links to find out more what also others observe about their pickups:
My indicative FC from Metro Manila to Naga City at CWC during the hot summer month of April 2010
http://motorcyclephilippines.com/for...9&postcount=61
My indicative FC from Metro Manila going up to Baguio City last December 2010
http://motorcyclephilippines.com/for...&postcount=160
One forumer's observation on his 3.2-litre Strada's FC
http://motorcyclephilippines.com/for...&postcount=163
And his insights on the 2.5-litre Strada's FC after a question was asked by another forumer
http://motorcyclephilippines.com/for...&postcount=164
http://motorcyclephilippines.com/for...&postcount=165
More of our ensuing discussions
http://motorcyclephilippines.com/for...&postcount=166
http://motorcyclephilippines.com/for...&postcount=167
The characteristics of the VGT-equipped DMax "3.0 iTEQ VGS Turbo" that we've all been waiting for to arrive in Philippines
http://motorcyclephilippines.com/for...&postcount=161
You may follow on thru the root link of this thread "Anu magandang pick up sa hauling?" if you want to know more about other developments in the pickup world.
Goodluck!
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April 23rd, 2011 02:37 PM #656
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April 23rd, 2011 02:43 PM #657the 30k Unichip requires splicing of wires. speedlab has this 50k unichip plug and play, they use this on diesel powered vehicle most of the time.
DPchip, IMO, is better in terms of warranty coverage. DPchip 5 years, Unichip 1 year.
Another upgrade to improve power/torque there is Devil's Own, i dont know how safe it is though.
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April 23rd, 2011 03:52 PM #658i think chief, Ford is (always) winning in the diesel truck war against GM-Isuzu.... though not quite sure. The engine on the Duramax 6.7-litre was for the most part developed by Isuzu during the merger with GM in the US.
Isuzu Motors had always been developing diesel engines quite ahead of its time, BUT solely for the European and US market only.... Even in 2002, Isuzu was already supplying 3-litre VGT-equipped CRDi engines for Opel of Germany, Renault of France, and Saab of Sweden.... Not only these engines are CRDi's and VGT-equipped, they also happen to be the world's first closed-deck cylinder block diecast aluminum engines.... And usually before such companies take into commercial a newer engine, it's already almost developed 2 or 3 years prior....
It's really quite a pity because we haven't yet tasted any of these industry-setting engines into our Philippine-soil, and discussions that involves "ranting" in this very forum has taken its toll into heated arguments, perhaps even hatred, amongst us Isuzu owners....
i just happen to be an Isuzumaniac "conditionally-speaking", not all-the-way, quite frankly
Yes chief, correcto! The Aussie DPChip got a 5-year warranty. However, the unit alone costs around Au$1,500, and whilst the Au$ now is even higher than US$, we "might" be looking into PhP67,000 for this diesel EFi-tuning chip alone....
As far as the alcohol-injection you've mentioned here, Speedlab Racing Tech does it. The Unichip plus alcohol injection combo is the minimum "real deal" if you wanna improve the "intake" part or "upstream" of the diesel engine system. One may also derive some bit more performance gains by changing the stock/ OEM filter with the K&N air filter and a quite sizeable gain can be had more with a bigger intercooler....
....These other mods, though, including full-turbo, full-exhaust and hoses modifications, i'm no longer interested at exploring more as these translate to beefing up other components as well downstream of the system such as the transmission.... i'm already contented with the Unichip alone (or even in combo perhaps with the alcohol-injection) if i gain about 25 hp more and plus 50Nm of torque for the Philippine DMax-siado.
The positive thing also about alcohol injection is it lowers the air-intake temperature, and of course, the lower the air temperature is, the more oxygen it contains thus favouring the intake part of a typical diesel engine. Diesels breath better in relatively colder air. They also say (although i really do not know) that alcohol-injection helps in decarbonising a diesel engine. i'm also not really aware how safe it is.... i should explore some more info from the more-in-the-know Speedlab's tuning experts.
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April 25th, 2011 01:37 PM #659
Congratulations! FC and reliability are very important indeed. And of course the D-Max has better looks than the others. :naughty2:
Just an update on my D-Max LS 4x2 A/T. I used to get 8.5km/L at most on 45 liters of diesel (weekly consumption). As my truck's mileage is almost 5000km, I got 9.3km/L last week. Hoping this would still improve though. Medyo maluwag din SLEX kanina and I got my speed from 0kph to 135kph really easy.
Really happy with my truck right now
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April 25th, 2011 08:44 PM #660
Plug and play DP Chip for the common rail DMax is Php50K. Last I heard they could also deliver to your doorstep.
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