Top speed of '07 honda civic 1.8(mt/at or 2.0(mt/at

**Blacktail** · January 25th, 2009 04:47 AM

honda civic 07 A/T, wala ako masabi, basta dumiin ka sa gas bibigyan ka nya ng power. 160 to 180 kph lang ang ngagawa ko.takot nko sa 200kph ksi bka sumabog ang gulong.

**FWC** · January 25th, 2009 01:36 PM

A civic 2.0 S (M/T) can hit over 200++ kph. I was following one at the Skyway and he was still ahead of me at 200 kph. I only overtook him when I hit 210 kph.

**aldrichsy** · January 25th, 2009 01:42 PM

I have a friend that is a member of both Honda Club and Team FD.
He claimed that he hit 215kph and pictured it.
He was at SCTEX. He was driving a 2006 Honda Civic M/T
with K&N drop in filter upgrade.

**oj88** · January 25th, 2009 02:00 PM

The A/T variant will have a higher top speed than the M/T version (applies to both 1.8 and 2.0) because the former has a higher gear ratio.

**jomarijoma** · January 25th, 2009 04:18 PM

Btw, is civic 07 powered by K-series engine or F-Series Engine?

**oj88** · January 25th, 2009 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by jomarijoma

Btw, is civic 07 powered by K-series engine or F-Series Engine?

The PhDM FD comes with either an R18 or a K20.

**FWC** · January 26th, 2009 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by oj88

The A/T variant will have a higher top speed than the M/T version (applies to both 1.8 and 2.0) because the former has a higher gear ratio.

In theory, that is correct. But in practice, the A/T could never maximize the gear ratio. There is a fluid coupling between the engine and the power train and this absorbs a lot of the engine's power if there is too much resistance in the power train (wind velocity, load factor, etc.).

**oj88** · January 26th, 2009 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by FWC

In theory, that is correct. But in practice, the A/T could never maximize the gear ratio. There is a fluid coupling between the engine and the power train and this absorbs a lot of the engine's power if there is too much resistance in the power train (wind velocity, load factor, etc.).

Not this baby.

Most, if not all modern A/Ts have a torque converter lockup clutch. It means that as both sides of the torque converter (input vs output) approaches the same speed, the clutch locks them up to mitigate torque converter losses and should improve fuel efficiency.

The Honda 5-speed A/T, among others, have this feature.

Of course, top speed is different from acceleration. A M/T would be in an advantage during acceleration.

**FWC** · January 27th, 2009 03:09 AM

Originally Posted by oj88

Not this baby.

Most, if not all modern A/Ts have a torque converter lockup clutch. It means that as both sides of the torque converter (input vs output) approaches the same speed, the clutch locks them up to mitigate torque converter losses and should improve fuel efficiency.

The Honda 5-speed A/T, among others, have this feature.

Of course, top speed is different from acceleration. A M/T would be in an advantage during acceleration.

I checked out the specs.

This is for the M/T: Gear Ratios: 1st: 3.143, 2nd: 1.870, 3rd: 1.235, 4th: 0.949, 5th: 0.727, Reverse: 3.308, Final Drive: 4.29

This is for the A/T: Gear Ratios: 1st: 2.666, 2nd: 1.534, 3rd: 1.022, 4th: 0.721, 5th: 0.525, Reverse: 1.957, Final Drive: 4.44

You are right. And it's not only on in the top gears. It is in all the gears, in fact. But check out the Final Drive. The M/T has a higher final gear ratio but it's just a small difference compared to the differences in gears.

Now, I wonder why it's that way. They're supposed to be getting the same power from the same engine.

**Starex_Gold** · January 28th, 2009 08:12 PM

sa teamFD:

1.8S M/T: 210 KPH
1.8S A/T: 214 KPH

2.0S M/T: 225 KPH
2.0S-L A/T: 225 KPH

ALL STOCK ang engine nila. Pero yung kay mamar 1.8S M/T TURBO naka 215 KPH pero hindi pa sagad yun..