Power Steering Fluid ATF?

**bobochan789** · December 29th, 2009 11:58 PM

is it ok to use ATF as power steering fluid na din? got a honda civic vti. nilagyan ko kasi ng petron premium SAE-20 yung power steering reservoir kanina, e nakita ko ngaun lang sa manual na dont use any other than OEM PS fluid ng honda.

ok lang ba ginawa ko? sabi kasi ng mechanic friend ko ATF nga daw.

**incus** · December 30th, 2009 12:08 AM

don't know about honda, sa mazda 323 ATF ang nilalagay sa power steering.

**speed unlimited** · December 30th, 2009 12:24 AM

OKay lang naman kung nalagyan mo ng ibang brand ang powersteering fluid mo . Mas prefer nga lang nila Honda powersteering fluid gamitin mo dahil Honda makina mo . Kahit nga motorcycle nakalagay sa makina use only Honda oil.

**sirhc77** · January 1st, 2010 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by speed unlimited

OKay lang naman kung nalagyan mo ng ibang brand ang powersteering fluid mo . Mas prefer nga lang nila Honda powersteering fluid gamitin mo dahil Honda makina mo . Kahit nga motorcycle nakalagay sa makina use only Honda oil.

sabi sir ng iba nakakasira daw ng power steering pump kung iba fluid ang ginamit,kaya dapat daw yung sa honda talaga,tulad ng sa akin maingay na ang steering,alam ko nung binili ko na may damage na sya kaya lang hindi pa sya malala,pero ngayon,maingay na,nakabili na ako g repair kit nya kaso hindi ko pa maipagawa,tanung ko sana kung may idea kayo kung magkanu ang labor sa repair ng steering pump?salamat,sinsya na nakisingit ako

**oj88** · January 1st, 2010 03:42 PM

Only use Honda PSF for the power steering and Honda ATF-Z1 for the A/T (non-CVT).

**weisshorn** · January 1st, 2010 03:43 PM

pardon me for my egnoramus

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Yan bang petron premium sae-20 ay hydraulic oil or engine oil ang designation. Kung hydraulic oil yan I think ok lang basta ma meet nya ang minimum requirement ng recommended type.

**speed unlimited** · January 1st, 2010 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by sirhc77

sabi sir ng iba nakakasira daw ng power steering pump kung iba fluid ang ginamit,kaya dapat daw yung sa honda talaga,tulad ng sa akin maingay na ang steering,alam ko nung binili ko na may damage na sya kaya lang hindi pa sya malala,pero ngayon,maingay na,nakabili na ako g repair kit nya kaso hindi ko pa maipagawa,tanung ko sana kung may idea kayo kung magkanu ang labor sa repair ng steering pump?salamat,sinsya na nakisingit ako

Hindi ko alam kung magkano repair ng steering pump . Sundin mo na lang nakalagay sa Vehicle manual mo kung Honda ATF and nakalagay na dapat mong ilagay.

**voltscastillo** · January 2nd, 2010 11:24 AM

honda ps fluid for power steering.

honda atf for auto tranny.

use any other fluid for these two and they will break. guaranteed. hindi naman instantly, siguro bibigay sya pagka bumiyahe kayo ng pamilya mo sa ilocos, leaving you stranded in the middle of the road. you don't want that, do you?

don't ask me why i know this... lets just say i have experience in these matters. lots of it. hehehe.

**paulgozon** · February 14th, 2010 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by bobochan789

is it ok to use ATF as power steering fluid na din? got a honda civic vti. nilagyan ko kasi ng petron premium SAE-20 yung power steering reservoir kanina, e nakita ko ngaun lang sa manual na dont use any other than OEM PS fluid ng honda.

ok lang ba ginawa ko? sabi kasi ng mechanic friend ko ATF nga daw.

Many will say, that it is better to follow Honda Genuine Power Steering Fluid, than to suffer in the long run.

But for me, its just a warranty issue, since there are no standard in Power Steering Fluid, honda are requiring owners to use their own PS fluid, unable to follow would compromise your warranty. Honda is playing safe here at the same time, generating more profits. Look under your hood (Honda Cars) "Use of oil additives might cause damaged to engine", another play safe for honda. Power steering systems are simply hydraulic system, nothing fancy, from the seals to its pumps, compared to automatic transmissions. Just like asking buyers of honda cars, that they are waiving their right to use the vehicle in the taxi business, also playing safe from their point of view.

Many will dispute me.

**oj88** · February 14th, 2010 03:49 PM

You bet ya! :D

Any hydraulic fluid will work on any hydraulic system. Yup, you read that right. But for how long it will last, that's a different matter.

Hydraulic seals are not all made from the same material. Certain compounds mixed with the wrong fluid will ruin it. When the seals are exposed to a fluid that is chemically corrosive, it can swell, crack or dissolve. The correct fluid will not react with the seal and helps along with the lubrication of the whole system.

Considering how little PSF you need to flush and change the system, why risk not getting the proper OEM fluid?

I could understand if you need 20 liters of the stuff. But in most Hondas, you'll only need around a liter of PSF (that's one bottle) to do a complete ATF change. Further, you only need to do this like once or twice every 2-3 years, at most.

Is it worth to worry about spending a bit more on OEM fluids (if cost is your argument) than say, use a "compatible" fluid, while...

a. you, not knowing if it will or will not ruin the seals? or,
b. your car starts puking the stuff only months after you changed the fluid?

No, I don't think Honda is pulling a number on us. I believe they're just doing their homework.