CRV Fuel Nightmare

[number001]

1. Stopping at Stop light

Idle moments running the engine, whether in the traffic or enjoying the aircon while parked in the parking space, is quite bad for the fuel consumption rate because fuel is being burned without any corresponding gain in kilometers. So, if you had an instantaneous fuel consumption rate meter in the vehicle, it would say 0.0 km/li.

2. Stepping on accelerator

It is obvious that any pedal-to-the floor start from a stand still is really bad mechanically (in the long term) and for fuel consumption. To conserve gas, slightly tap the accelerator from a stand still start. Doing this will really slow your vehicle (depending on how heavy it is) so ignore those honking their horns at your back. Release the pedal before hitting 2,000 rpm.

3. Turning on and off the ignition

Regarding on and off of the ignition. If this is done during stand still traffic, I think it could save some fuel. Manufacturers like Mini have incorporated something like this in their Clubman. Only concern is the constant load on the battery. Also not so sure how would an on and off situation might affect the aircon compressor. If you are referring to on-off in relation to short trips then it is not good. The engine wouldn't get the chance to warm up to its nominal or ideal operating temperature.

The key here is to try to maintain momentum whenever possible. Only apply brakes and gas as needed. Keep it to a minimum if possible.

Check your tire pressure regularly. I read somewhere that even a -1 psi off the recommended psi value is enough to rob off some performance.

I'm asking this because other cars can go 10km/liter in pure
highway driving while the CRV 2004 A/T can't even reach more
than 6km/liter in highway driving (as opposed to 5km/liter city
driving).. why kaya?

I think fuel consumption in varying degrees of traffic is quite difficult to compare. Maybe if you can share the route you take, max road speed attainable, avg speed, traffic condition, time of the day/night, weather condition, etc...

Second. Is it true the 2nd Gen CRV 2004 A/T can go or
accelerate faster than the CRV 2008? This means the CRV 2004
has more powerful engine, built almost like a tank?

The R series of the new CRV and the K20 series on the 2nd gen. CRV, though belonging to different lines, are quite similar in terms of their specs. In fact, the R series has a slight edge, but that advantage will diminish if the new CRV is heavier than the old one. Honda Phil did not publish the curb weight of the 2nd gen CRV on their brochures.

Third. I have seen many images in TVs of sedans like city or civic
being crumpled during collision. But I don't recall seeing SUVs
like CRVs being crumpled during collision. It seems CRVs are
quite collision resistance. Isn't it? This would be a great safety
factor and may mean keeping the CRV even if fuel cost is higher
(consider the higher pesos spent to be added security).

The Civic FD has one of the highest collision rating from the NHTSA (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) and IIHS (Insurance Institute for Highway Safety) in its category. The current and outgoing GD Jazz, which the current City is based on, also got similar high ratings in the US. Bottom line is, these vehicles have ample crush zones and safety features to minimize injuries. The new CRV (3rd gen.) also attained high ratings in its category from the above mentioned institutions.

Regarding, your 2nd gen. CRV, if I'm not mistaken, its crash test results were lower than the current Civic, City, or CRV. Therefore, the newer vehicles are actually safer and more crash worthy.

[niker]

Idle moments running the engine, whether in the traffic or enjoying the aircon while parked in the parking space, is quite bad for the fuel consumption rate because fuel is being burned without any corresponding gain in kilometers. So, if you had an instantaneous fuel consumption rate meter in the vehicle, it would say 0.0 km/li.


It is obvious that any pedal-to-the floor start from a stand still is really bad mechanically (in the long term) and for fuel consumption. To conserve gas, slightly tap the accelerator from a stand still start. Doing this will really slow your vehicle (depending on how heavy it is) so ignore those honking their horns at your back. Release the pedal before hitting 2,000 rpm.


Regarding on and off of the ignition. If this is done during stand still traffic, I think it could save some fuel. Manufacturers like Mini have incorporated something like this in their Clubman. Only concern is the constant load on the battery. Also not so sure how would an on and off situation might affect the aircon compressor. If you are referring to on-off in relation to short trips then it is not good. The engine wouldn't get the chance to warm up to its nominal or ideal operating temperature.

The key here is to try to maintain momentum whenever possible. Only apply brakes and gas as needed. Keep it to a minimum if possible.

Check your tire pressure regularly. I read somewhere that even a -1 psi off the recommended psi value is enough to rob off some performance.


I think fuel consumption in varying degrees of traffic is quite difficult to compare. Maybe if you can share the route you take, max road speed attainable, avg speed, traffic condition, time of the day/night, weather condition, etc...



The R series of the new CRV and the K20 series on the 2nd gen. CRV, though belonging to different lines, are quite similar in terms of their specs. In fact, the R series has a slight edge, but that advantage will diminish if the new CRV is heavier than the old one. Honda Phil did not publish the curb weight of the 2nd gen CRV on their brochures.



The Civic FD has one of the highest collision rating from the NHTSA (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) and IIHS (Insurance Institute for Highway Safety) in its category. The current and outgoing GD Jazz, which the current City is based on, also got similar high ratings in the US. Bottom line is, these vehicles have ample crush zones and safety features to minimize injuries. The new CRV (3rd gen.) also attained high ratings in its category from the above mentioned institutions.

Regarding, your 2nd gen. CRV, if I'm not mistaken, its crash test results were lower than the current Civic, City, or CRV. Therefore, the newer vehicles are actually safer and more crash worthy.

Gee. Really? Hope you can find the reference where you based it from. Because if it is true, that my 2004 CRV a/t has poorer crash performance than the puny City, Then off it goes next week or next month.

BTW... I wonder how much should I sell my 2004 CRV 5 seater A/T. It has mileage of only 28K. Toyota Otis wants to trade it in for 530K, while Honda Otis wants it for only 510K. I wonder if I can sell it for 600K or so. Anyone knows the current market price for this?

Also I wonder whether to get the Toyota Altis 2008 or Honda Civic 1.8s. Which of these has actually the edge in fuel performance?

[kinyo]

sabi nung owner its consuming 7-9km/ city driving.

A car that goes 7-9 km/li city driving is MATIPID!

[ForceOfWill]

if u owned a crv would u consider having it lpg-converted? xD

i won't lol xD

[alwayz_yummy]

FOW - yan din sinasabi ko noong infancy of lpg kits.. would get a diesel than lpg..but now i'm researching it..w/ actual owners, not taxi drivers

[niker]

FOW - yan din sinasabi ko noong infancy of lpg kits.. would get a diesel than lpg..but now i'm researching it..w/ actual owners, not taxi drivers

According to a Honda branch salesman, the problem with LPG is that the gas goes back to the input and it mixes with aircon. This not being caused by leaky setup but a characteristic of lpg itself. There is no way daw to fix it and that's why you get thirsty always and have to drink a lot of water because the lpg is reacting with your throat. I think this is just misinfo of some kind, right?

[number001]

Gee. Really? Hope you can find the reference where you based it from. Because if it is true, that my 2004 CRV a/t has poorer crash performance than the puny City, Then off it goes next week or next month.

BTW... I wonder how much should I sell my 2004 CRV 5 seater A/T. It has mileage of only 28K. Toyota Otis wants to trade it in for 530K, while Honda Otis wants it for only 510K. I wonder if I can sell it for 600K or so. Anyone knows the current market price for this?

Also I wonder whether to get the Toyota Altis 2008 or Honda Civic 1.8s. Which of these has actually the edge in fuel performance?

IIHS crash test results for:

Honda CR-V
2002-06 models


FRONTAL OFFSET TEST


SIDE IMPACT TEST WITHOUT OPTIONAL SIDE AIRBAGS


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Honda Fit (Jazz) - The City (not sold in the US) is based on the this GD Jazz
2007-08 models


FRONTAL OFFSET TEST


SIDE IMPACT TEST WITHOUT OPTIONAL SIDE AIRBAGS - not applicable here bec. local units are not equipped with neither side nor curtain airbags.


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Honda Civic
2006-08 models


FRONTAL OFFSET TEST


SIDE IMPACT TEST WITHOUT OPTIONAL SIDE AIRBAGS - not applicable here bec. local units are not equipped with neither side nor curtain airbags.


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Honda CR-V
2007-08 models


FRONTAL OFFSET TEST


SIDE IMPACT TEST WITHOUT OPTIONAL SIDE AIRBAGS - applicable only with the 2.4 li AWD model. It is only equipped with side airbags and no curtain airbags.
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Toyota Corolla
2009 models


FRONTAL OFFSET TEST

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Because if it is true, that my 2004 CRV a/t has poorer crash performance than the puny City, Then off it goes next week or next month.

Ok, what I meant is that the 2004 CRV has poorer ratings in the US bec. it did not come equipped with side nor curtain airbags. Then again, neither do the current Civic FD, City, and CRV (2WD variant) so they are more or less on equal footing at this point.

BTW... I wonder how much should I sell my 2004 CRV 5 seater A/T. It has mileage of only 28K. Toyota Otis wants to trade it in for 530K, while Honda Otis wants it for only 510K. I wonder if I can sell it for 600K or so. Anyone knows the current market price for this?

Based on what I see on ads, 2002-2003 CRV have asking price of around Php 530 (very rare) to 550K (usually). Whether or not, a deal can be closed with that kind of price, is something I'm not sure of.

Also I wonder whether to get the Toyota Altis 2008 or Honda Civic 1.8s. Which of these has actually the edge in fuel performance?

I would get the Civic 1.8 S A/T or M/T over the Corolla anytime.

[tidus1203]

You can try posting your CR-V in the internet like here in Tsikot and some other sites like Autoindustriya and the like... If you want to reach the oldies you might want to post an ad on Manila Bulletin Classifieds since the oldies do not check the internet. Pero to be honest you are not losing a whole lot of money trading it in compared to the market price so for the sake of convenience I might trade it in.

The 2008 Corolla is a disappointment for me. It looks nice exterior wise, the interior is boring as hell and the engine is OLD. Same engine used in the 1st ZZ Altis. The transmission is just 4 speed so with that I go with Civic S. But since mukang praning ka sa safety you might wanna go 2.0S-L so you have side airbags as well....

[ronw123w124]

I've been using our gen 2 2002 CRV for the last week as my daily driver since we sold our Altis last week. I managed to get 7.8km/liter city driving BUT I achieved it with a LOT of discipline on my part. I try to maintain the engine speed at 2,000rpm with maximum rpm * 2,500. I don't use the aircon when travelling early in the morning, I just open the windows or use the blower.

[niker]

IIHS crash test results for:

Honda CR-V
2002-06 models


FRONTAL OFFSET TEST


SIDE IMPACT TEST WITHOUT OPTIONAL SIDE AIRBAGS

Where can I buy this optional side airbags to install over my old CRV 2004?