Too many PASAWAY motorcycle RIDERS on the street

[falken]

Correct me if i'm wrong, still mali ba ang Mc rider kung lets say tumatakbo ka na ng ample speed lets say 60-80kph

may katabi ka then they'll squeeze in the middle matching your speed. For me napaka delikado!

wala ng room for error eh, to add up fatal talaga yan kung sumabit si rider.

Mali yan, yung mga marunong sa motor di ginagawa iyan.

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[lawrenz17]

Correct me if i'm wrong, still mali ba ang Mc rider kung lets say tumatakbo ka na ng ample speed lets say 60-80kph

may katabi ka then they'll squeeze in the middle matching your speed. For me napaka delikado!

wala ng room for error eh, to add up fatal talaga yan kung sumabit si rider.

maling mali,oo motor sila para makasingit sa slow traffic pero hindi para makipagkarera sa fast traffic.tsk tsk

[coiter]

maling mali,oo motor sila para makasingit sa slow traffic pero hindi para makipagkarera sa fast traffic.tsk tsk

California Motorcyclist Safety Program

if only these were followed here...

1) Travel at a speed that is no more than 10 MPH faster than other traffic – danger increases at higher speed differentials.

- A speed differential of 10 miles per hour or less allows an alert, competent rider enough time to identify and react to most dangerous situations that can occur.

- The greater the speed differential, the less time a rider has to identify and react to a hazard.



2) It is not advisable to lane split when traffic flow is at 30 mph or faster --- danger increases as overall speed increases.

- At just 20 mph, in the 1 or 2 seconds it takes a rider to identify a hazard, that rider will travel approximately 30 to 60 feet before even starting to take evasive action. Actual reaction (braking or swerving) will take additional time and distance.

- Braking and stopping distance varies greatly based on a multitude of factors (rider, machine and environment).

- As speed increases, crash severity increases.

[christel_chops]

Correct me if i'm wrong, still mali ba ang Mc rider kung lets say tumatakbo ka na ng ample speed lets say 60-80kph

may katabi ka then they'll squeeze in the middle matching your speed. For me napaka delikado!

wala ng room for error eh, to add up fatal talaga yan kung sumabit si rider.

I ride a motorcycle on my "lazy" days. And i hate riders who squeeze with me when I'm driving my bike in the middle of the lane, in my "one car space"..then overtake and squeeze on moving traffic..estu**do..

[IMm29]

Motorized bisikleta kasi ang turing nung mga utak ipis na nagmomotor. The stunts they get away with as bike riders, they also expect to apply as MC riders. The speed difference alone is enough to kill or maim them, but sige lang, tuloy lang sila.

Again, our responsible friends would know that MCs, though also 2 wheeled vehicles, are different from bicycles, but then they're in the minority.

[leodawesome]

gaano kalaki ang proper space?

Originally Posted by leodawesome

'For me yung proper space is not having to brake hard for them to pass. I usually drive slow so I can anticipate their move.'

Eto na din boss yung sagot ko jan. Though technically swerving and cutting pa din maituturing yung ginagawa ng iba (1 vehicle apart is still considered cutting diba, regardless of the speed? Correct me if im wrong but i think 3 vehicles apart is the minimum safe distance, which will never be applicable in our city roads), saken lang basta di ako magppreno para sayo good ako dun.

[zeus17]

Using what you see on the side view mirror as basis on whether you can switch lanes or not is relative also, as each mirror varies in terms of the distance and size of what you see relative to your vehicle. In my case of course, you will need to have full view of the vehicle not only on your side mirror, but your peripheral vision and rear view mirror also checks for vehicles in your blind spots and possibly on the 3rd lane if needed in case someone else is also switching lanes at the same time.

"Proper space" not only includes having ample room to ensure the vehicle you are getting ahead of does not have to abruptly stop. This "ample space" varies on the speed of traffic and it also includes signalling your intention and switching lanes properly and smoothly.

Generally, my line of thought is that when i'm switching lanes, i'm not causing anything abrupt to the vehicle that i'll be moving ahead of. Ibang usapan though if he's an asshat and speeds up upon proper signalling and you have more than enough space to switch lanes.

thanks for this,it does put things on to perspective,
well on the same lines,din ako when weaving thru traffic,ung di ko maabala ung papasukan ko na lang,ung para wala nangyari,walng preno or no need to even honk

un lang wala kami rear view mirrors
pero i guess my side mirror is wide enough to see the lane i am coming from and the lane beside it to anticipate ung papasok din sa lane...

on the SUV thing this i never considered,i don't ride an underbone,medyo mataas ung tail lights and signal lights ko,pero never had an idea if the one's on the suv can actually see them...

any thoughts on how to i guess fix this?

Correct me if i'm wrong, still mali ba ang Mc rider kung lets say tumatakbo ka na ng ample speed lets say 60-80kph

may katabi ka then they'll squeeze in the middle matching your speed. For me napaka delikado!

wala ng room for error eh, to add up fatal talaga yan kung sumabit si rider.

well thats a big no sir, specially kung uber maluwag ung kalsada,assuming that it is kasi nakakapgpatakbo ka ng ganun,
usually on those speeds,mas mabilis kami sayo if you are running on 80 nag lalabas e tumatakbo kami ng mga 85-90kph,pero di kami magtatagal sa harap mo,90% of the time pag ganyan kaluwag nag weweave lang sa traffic...

yes, they shouldn't be there regardless of the speed. kahit traffic hindi sila dapat sumisingit.

,pero if you can imagine,noon time,asa labas ka tirik araw walang aircon...
i bet you na sisingit ka din

California Motorcyclist Safety Program

if only these were followed here...

mostly,ung mga masipag enough to read stuff and understand do follow those rules,iba din aksi standard sa US,mas madalas maluwag kalsada..

[monkeybone1k]

The rider and his MC seen on this photo was hit by a Starex which was turning left. As you can see it looks like hindi niya pinagbigyan yung mas malaki sa kanya that's why tinamaan siya. Another worst part here is he's not even wearin his helmet as seen in this nakasabit lang sa handlebars ng MC niya. He still manage to text (o baka taking a photo to be posted online ala selfie) habang nakahiga sa kalsada. Ang helmet po ay para sa ulo niyo hindi sa manibela dahil wala dun ang utak nyo! Just saying.

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[Aoshinomori]

me naalala tuloy ako na scenario, about a year ago. kaso off-topic kasi:
Too many MC riders on the sidewalk! hehehe
naglalakad ako sa bangketa, elevated sa kalsada, me bakal na parang fence pa. Tapos me bumusina sa likod ko, ang lapit ng tunog.
paglingon ko WTF me scooter! sa bangketa! E di gumilid ako, lumagpas siya. Mga 8-9 times ako tumatabi dahil mayamaya meron ulit.

[Aoshinomori]

sorry double post