Too many PASAWAY motorcycle RIDERS on the street

[brainmafia_310]

kasali ako sa isang local mc forum sa facebook. i brought up the topic re: road legal bikes (lights etc), helmets, and running from apprehending officers. binura ang thread ko kasi madami daw nawawalan ng gana.

told them na di naman ako naninita, i was just trying to help improve the bike community in our place. sabi nila safety gears lang daw set-up ng makina, porma at fun runs ang dapat andun. sinabi ko naman na kasama sa safety ng bikers ang mga yun at matatanda na sila para malaman ang mali at tama. um-oo naman. labo ng utak.

mahirap magsabi sa mga 6 digitz ang sweldo pre. wag ka na mageffort.

pakilala mo naman ako sa mga tropa mong mahilig sa fun run run at magset up ng bitekleta nila.

baka may magbigay pa ng pang gas ko, heheheheh.

is this you confirming na ung buong group na iyun eh mga gag0 at tang*?

[brainmafia_310]

*$$holes on two wheels occupying the Pedestrian lane along Makati Ave cor Paseo de Roxas. Another pet peeve.

Pre mga mayayaman yang mga iyan. Wag ganyan at baka bumalik si 6digitz dito at ipamukha ung sweldo niya sa atin.

Buti nga di mo sa underpass nakita sa bandang GT tower may nagmomotor sa sidewalk dati.

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[brainmafia_310]

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[ADAA73]

mahirap magsabi sa mga 6 digitz ang sweldo pre. wag ka na mageffort.

pakilala mo naman ako sa mga tropa mong mahilig sa fun run run at magset up ng bitekleta nila.

baka may magbigay pa ng pang gas ko, heheheheh.

is this you confirming na ung buong group na iyun eh mga gag0 at tang*?

hindi naman lahat pero madami siguro nagreklamo for the admin of the said page to remove my queries as to why they don't want to wear helmets, etc.

may mga nag a-agree din naman sa akin at nagsasabi na pag pinara huli. wala naman dapat ikatakot kung walang mali sa motor nila.

[k0mpressor]

Please forgive this long post:

I ride to work everyday too pero I somewhat share the sentiments of the majority here. Minsan may mapait na katotohanan yung generalization (although I'm still against) na majority ng sub-100k motorcycle users are uneducated.

I was a car enthusiast as early as my elementary days and got my driver's license a month after I turned 17. I bought a motorcycle way back before the streets got literally flooded with it. My reason was that with my first jobs more than a decade ago, it was very prohibitive for me to bring the car to work everyday due to gas and parking expenses. Taking public transport was my first option but it was very very time consuming, inconvenient and not to mention more expensive compared to paying for gas and monthly payments for the personal loan I secured to buy the bike (in-house financing for motorcycles is just a very big joke, doubling its base cost after 3 years). It was a 110cc commuter bike that served its purpose back then (work, home and even weekend trips). It slowly developed into a passion that's why as the years went by, I upgraded into slightly bigger displacements not for the speed but for the flexibility and carrying capacity and not to mention, fuel economy during long drives. My current bike now has 3 big cases attached, is still sub-400cc but manages to slip by the toll booths without attracting too much attention (heck, even a 110cc can safely cruise the tollways given that the rider has the correct attitude/discipline but that's another story). My cars became garage queens except when going out with the family or carrying loads beyond my bike's capability.

Then came the boom of commuter motorcycles. I can't blame fellow car owners for also getting one because of the skyrocketing gas prices and super horrendous traffic nowadays. However, with more financing schemes available and low prices in the second hand market, it's not just the common salaried worker anymore who can avail but even those living below the minimum wage which we can conclude naman na may kakulangan sa edukasyon (reality check in the employment world: you won't get a good starting compensation if you're not a college graduate and even some college graduates start at the minimum wage). I'm not saying it's a bad thing but a lot of them scrip on their needs just to be able to acquire a motorcycle. Of course, since they feel deprived, dun nila binabawi sa motorcycle yung sense of deprivation nila. Kaya harurot dito, harurot doon, setup dito, setup doon, porma dito, porma doon. Kahit naman car owners na deprived sa pansin, ganun din naman actually. Porma dito, porma doon, harurot dito, harurot doon, etc. Anything to be noticed.

What I noticed though I won't generalize, is that motorcycle owners who are also car owners tend to be respectful towards cars and pedestrians on the road, probably because they can very much relate to car drives since they own and drive cars themselves. And believe it or not, a lot of motorcyclists (who never had cars) actually hate cars and think that they should be entitled to road courtesy and not the other way around and you want to know their line of reasoning? To quote actual people (most of those mentioned don't have cars and live off just above the minimum wage):

"Masasarap naman upo nila mga naka aircon naman sa kotse"
"Dun lang ako makakalamang eh, Lamang naman sila sa ibang bagay kasi marami naman silang pera, may mga pambili nga ng bagong kotse"
"Pasalamat pa nga sila kasi pag nabangga sila, nasa loob pa rin sila ng sasakyan. Ako, pati katawan ko bangga"

And yet they are the very same people who don't value safety.
- Ayaw maghelmet kasi mas uunahin ang porma or makita mukha nila/mga naka gel/pomada nilang buhok.
- Tinatanggal mga side mirror kasi abala pag sumisingit.
- Tinatanggal mga side mirror para daw maporma.
- Maglolower ng suspension para daw porma, prone naman sa semplang kasi maraming pwedeng sumayad/sumabit.
- Aalisin yung pulang kulay sa tail lamp para daw unique pero lahat naman sila pare pareho ginagawa. Peste sa mga mata ng mga motorista sa likod.
- Paiingayin tambutso para daw malayo pa lang alam nang parating sila for safety daw pero ang totoo, para mapansin sila (kasi at the same time, hindi maghehelmet, nakatsinelas at kung anu ano pa)

Pinaka-pet peeve ko is yung mga single cylinder pero high revving engines na pinapalitan ng maiingay na muffler. Pulsating sound na hindi naman low frequency + high volume. Bulahaw. Papansin. Peste. Justification pa kuno is loud pipes save lives daw which is total BS.

[babkalakal]

Please forgive this long post:

I ride to work everyday too pero I somewhat share the sentiments of the majority here. Minsan may mapait na katotohanan yung generalization (although I'm still against) na majority ng sub-100k motorcycle users are uneducated.

I was a car enthusiast as early as my elementary days and got my driver's license a month after I turned 17. I bought a motorcycle way back before the streets got literally flooded with it. My reason was that with my first jobs more than a decade ago, it was very prohibitive for me to bring the car to work everyday due to gas and parking expenses. Taking public transport was my first option but it was very very time consuming, inconvenient and not to mention more expensive compared to paying for gas and monthly payments for the personal loan I secured to buy the bike (in-house financing for motorcycles is just a very big joke, doubling its base cost after 3 years). It was a 110cc commuter bike that served its purpose back then (work, home and even weekend trips). It slowly developed into a passion that's why as the years went by, I upgraded into slightly bigger displacements not for the speed but for the flexibility and carrying capacity and not to mention, fuel economy during long drives. My current bike now has 3 big cases attached, is still sub-400cc but manages to slip by the toll booths without attracting too much attention (heck, even a 110cc can safely cruise the tollways given that the rider has the correct attitude/discipline but that's another story). My cars became garage queens except when going out with the family or carrying loads beyond my bike's capability.

Then came the boom of commuter motorcycles. I can't blame fellow car owners for also getting one because of the skyrocketing gas prices and super horrendous traffic nowadays. However, with more financing schemes available and low prices in the second hand market, it's not just the common salaried worker anymore who can avail but even those living below the minimum wage which we can conclude naman na may kakulangan sa edukasyon (reality check in the employment world: you won't get a good starting compensation if you're not a college graduate and even some college graduates start at the minimum wage). I'm not saying it's a bad thing but a lot of them scrip on their needs just to be able to acquire a motorcycle. Of course, since they feel deprived, dun nila binabawi sa motorcycle yung sense of deprivation nila. Kaya harurot dito, harurot doon, setup dito, setup doon, porma dito, porma doon. Kahit naman car owners na deprived sa pansin, ganun din naman actually. Porma dito, porma doon, harurot dito, harurot doon, etc. Anything to be noticed.

What I noticed though I won't generalize, is that motorcycle owners who are also car owners tend to be respectful towards cars and pedestrians on the road, probably because they can very much relate to car drives since they own and drive cars themselves. And believe it or not, a lot of motorcyclists (who never had cars) actually hate cars and think that they should be entitled to road courtesy and not the other way around and you want to know their line of reasoning? To quote actual people (most of those mentioned don't have cars and live off just above the minimum wage):

"Masasarap naman upo nila mga naka aircon naman sa kotse"
"Dun lang ako makakalamang eh, Lamang naman sila sa ibang bagay kasi marami naman silang pera, may mga pambili nga ng bagong kotse"
"Pasalamat pa nga sila kasi pag nabangga sila, nasa loob pa rin sila ng sasakyan. Ako, pati katawan ko bangga"

And yet they are the very same people who don't value safety.
- Ayaw maghelmet kasi mas uunahin ang porma or makita mukha nila/mga naka gel/pomada nilang buhok.
- Tinatanggal mga side mirror kasi abala pag sumisingit.
- Tinatanggal mga side mirror para daw maporma.
- Maglolower ng suspension para daw porma, prone naman sa semplang kasi maraming pwedeng sumayad/sumabit.
- Aalisin yung pulang kulay sa tail lamp para daw unique pero lahat naman sila pare pareho ginagawa. Peste sa mga mata ng mga motorista sa likod.
- Paiingayin tambutso para daw malayo pa lang alam nang parating sila for safety daw pero ang totoo, para mapansin sila (kasi at the same time, hindi maghehelmet, nakatsinelas at kung anu ano pa)

Pinaka-pet peeve ko is yung mga single cylinder pero high revving engines na pinapalitan ng maiingay na muffler. Pulsating sound na hindi naman low frequency + high volume. Bulahaw. Papansin. Peste. Justification pa kuno is loud pipes save lives daw which is total BS.

True. On some point this reminds me of James Deakin's article on the Philippine Star "tyranny of the weak".

[KERSMcRae]

kasali ako sa isang local mc forum sa facebook. i brought up the topic re: road legal bikes (lights etc), helmets, and running from apprehending officers. binura ang thread ko kasi madami daw nawawalan ng gana.

told them na di naman ako naninita, i was just trying to help improve the bike community in our place. sabi nila safety gears lang daw set-up ng makina, porma at fun runs ang dapat andun. sinabi ko naman na kasama sa safety ng bikers ang mga yun at matatanda na sila para malaman ang mali at tama. um-oo naman. labo ng utak.

anong pangalan ng forum sa fb? group ba yun? pa-pm. thanks.

[gearspeed]

And yet they are the very same people who don't value safety.
- Ayaw maghelmet kasi mas uunahin ang porma or makita mukha nila/mga naka gel/pomada nilang buhok.
- Tinatanggal mga side mirror kasi abala pag sumisingit.
- Tinatanggal mga side mirror para daw maporma.
- Maglolower ng suspension para daw porma, prone naman sa semplang kasi maraming pwedeng sumayad/sumabit.
- Aalisin yung pulang kulay sa tail lamp para daw unique pero lahat naman sila pare pareho ginagawa. Peste sa mga mata ng mga motorista sa likod.
- Paiingayin tambutso para daw malayo pa lang alam nang parating sila for safety daw pero ang totoo, para mapansin sila (kasi at the same time, hindi maghehelmet, nakatsinelas at kung anu ano pa)

Pinaka-pet peeve ko is yung mga single cylinder pero high revving engines na pinapalitan ng maiingay na muffler. Pulsating sound na hindi naman low frequency + high volume. Bulahaw. Papansin. Peste. Justification pa kuno is loud pipes save lives daw which is total BS.

May nakalimutan ka yung madalas nakikita ko sa taguig at service road kapag gabi lalo walang tail light kahit pag preno walang ilaw pero may headlight.hahaha.Dapat kung gusto nila ng porma huwag na lang din nila lagyan ng headlight.In short hubad na lang para porma.hahaha. Tapos pag nakabangga sila sasabihin nila kotse ang may kasalanan then sasagot ng payabang yung rider.hahaha.Sa huli walang pambayad pero may pambili ng set up.hahaha.
Kung ayaw nila maghelmet at safety gear or kahit man lang magsuot ng pantalon,t-shirt at sapatos dapat sa kanila maghubad na lang sila para mas maporma gusto nila ng porma eh.hahaha.
Yung walang side mirror tawag ko dun " lingon type" lilingon yung rider para makasingit or didikitan yung kotse para lang makasingit.

Buti talaga wala sa SLEX, NLEX SCTEX atbp highway ang mga small motorcycle cgurado lalo pa dadami ang mamatay este magpapakamatay pala para lang humataw hanggang nasa langit na pala pag gising nila.hahaha.

[somniantis86]

Please forgive this long post:

I ride to work everyday too pero I somewhat share the sentiments of the majority here. Minsan may mapait na katotohanan yung generalization (although I'm still against) na majority ng sub-100k motorcycle users are uneducated.

I was a car enthusiast as early as my elementary days and got my driver's license a month after I turned 17. I bought a motorcycle way back before the streets got literally flooded with it. My reason was that with my first jobs more than a decade ago, it was very prohibitive for me to bring the car to work everyday due to gas and parking expenses. Taking public transport was my first option but it was very very time consuming, inconvenient and not to mention more expensive compared to paying for gas and monthly payments for the personal loan I secured to buy the bike (in-house financing for motorcycles is just a very big joke, doubling its base cost after 3 years). It was a 110cc commuter bike that served its purpose back then (work, home and even weekend trips). It slowly developed into a passion that's why as the years went by, I upgraded into slightly bigger displacements not for the speed but for the flexibility and carrying capacity and not to mention, fuel economy during long drives. My current bike now has 3 big cases attached, is still sub-400cc but manages to slip by the toll booths without attracting too much attention (heck, even a 110cc can safely cruise the tollways given that the rider has the correct attitude/discipline but that's another story). My cars became garage queens except when going out with the family or carrying loads beyond my bike's capability.

Sir, while i agree on most of your points, favor naman. Wag niyo na po ipilit dmaan sa mga expressway. Tutal bawal naman po talaga kayo dun. Kami po kasing mga dumadaan jan, minsan kasama mga pamilya namin. Hindi po enough ang assurance niyo na attittude at discipline lang ang kulang. Pinagbabawal po kayo jan for a reason. Wag na po tayong magmagaling. Salamat po.

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[beni23]

Kupal yung motor kanina. Naghintay ako ng ibang sasakyan na mas mataas kesa saken kanina, nung may naglakas loob na tawirin yung mataas na baha sa e.rod sumabay na ako. Eh bigla ako cinut ng kumag na motor tapos nagstall sa harap ko habang nasa gitna kami. Bwisit na bwisit ako, dinamay pa ako kung sakali. Ayun useless din pagaantay. Leche talaga. Monday morning na monday morning eh.


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