Too many PASAWAY motorcycle RIDERS on the street

**leodawesome** · February 19th, 2014 12:06 AM

Well I really don't have problems with them swerving and cutting, provided na may proper space. Naiinis lang talaga ako yung paglagpas sayo eh parang wala na silang kasunod kung magcut at magswerve.

**ClaNker** · February 19th, 2014 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by leodawesome

Well I really don't have problems with them swerving and cutting, provided na may proper space. Naiinis lang talaga ako yung paglagpas sayo eh parang wala na silang kasunod kung magcut at magswerve.

You don't even call that swerving and cutting if the overtaking driver gives a safe gap before merging back.

**leodawesome** · February 19th, 2014 12:36 AM

^ Sorry, subjective pala yung 'proper space' na nasabi ko. :D

For me yung proper space is not having to brake hard for them to pass. I usually drive slow so I can anticipate their move.

**zeus17** · February 19th, 2014 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by leodawesome

^ Sorry, subjective pala yung 'proper space' na nasabi ko. :D

For me yung proper space is not having to brake hard for them to pass. I usually drive slow so I can anticipate their move.

gaano kalaki ang proper space?
i hope you won't mind.

mine is until see your front tires mula sa side mirror..

**vinj** · February 19th, 2014 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by zeus17

gaano kalaki ang proper space?
i hope you won't mind.

mine is until see your front tires mula sa side mirror..

Using what you see on the side view mirror as basis on whether you can switch lanes or not is relative also, as each mirror varies in terms of the distance and size of what you see relative to your vehicle. In my case of course, you will need to have full view of the vehicle not only on your side mirror, but your peripheral vision and rear view mirror also checks for vehicles in your blind spots and possibly on the 3rd lane if needed in case someone else is also switching lanes at the same time.

"Proper space" not only includes having ample room to ensure the vehicle you are getting ahead of does not have to abruptly stop. This "ample space" varies on the speed of traffic and it also includes signalling your intention and switching lanes properly and smoothly.

Generally, my line of thought is that when i'm switching lanes, i'm not causing anything abrupt to the vehicle that i'll be moving ahead of. Ibang usapan though if he's an asshat and speeds up upon proper signalling and you have more than enough space to switch lanes.

**Calistro** · February 19th, 2014 09:45 AM

Hindi ko tinututukan madalas ang kotse sa harap ko at dumidikit ako sa isang side (e.g. left biased) para bigyan ng espasyo tong mga motorsiklo. Pero kung gitgitan dahil may aksidente at sisingit pa sila eh ibang usapan na yan. Pati bigayan sa intersection, hindi lang naman motor ang gumagawa niyan pati kotse na rin. Mas delikado lang para sa motor kase konting dampi lang sa mga yan eh buhay na ng rider ang nakataya.

**IMm29** · February 19th, 2014 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by vinj

Generally, my line of thought is that when i'm switching lanes, i'm not causing anything abrupt to the vehicle that i'll be moving ahead of. Ibang usapan though if he's an asshat and speeds up upon proper signalling and you have more than enough space to switch lanes.

"Ample" space for me is not having to resort to panic braking when they get into your lane. It's one thing not to let them in because you're probably an asshat, but it's another to not have to brake suddenly.

Honestly, I used to hate it when these guys get into my lane because further down, some other guy is going to get into my lane, because he's just going to squeeze the rider to one side of the lane. Rider gets thru and so does the other guy. Now, I've matured a bit to let that go and just hope for a responsible MC rider or two to overtake me without having to do sudden braking.

Ample space is being able to see at least part of the rear tire of the MC. Driving an SUV and/or a van, that would mean I can also see the brake lights and that there's still some room before my ride's bumper gets him. Him signalling with his hand downward doesn't count, because i can't see the signal to begin with.

With the way these guys ride, some days I'd just wish they get into it with jeepneys. Saya!

**cast_no_shadow** · February 19th, 2014 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by zeus17

gaano kalaki ang proper space?
i hope you won't mind.

mine is until see your front tires mula sa side mirror..

I agree with vinj.

Originally Posted by vinj

Generally, my line of thought is that when i'm switching lanes, i'm not causing anything abrupt to the vehicle that i'll be moving ahead of. Ibang usapan though if he's an asshat and speeds up upon proper signalling and you have more than enough space to switch lanes.

**cast_no_shadow** · February 19th, 2014 10:56 AM

Correct me if i'm wrong, still mali ba ang Mc rider kung lets say tumatakbo ka na ng ample speed lets say 60-80kph

may katabi ka then they'll squeeze in the middle matching your speed. For me napaka delikado!

wala ng room for error eh, to add up fatal talaga yan kung sumabit si rider.