the many problems of owning a ford focus

**Egan101** · September 15th, 2017 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by jokwa114

So a Mazda 3 2009 Hatchback, would be a good car?

I think the hatchback came only with the 1.6L engine. The 2.0L Mazda3 came in sedan form with sunroof and stock 17" rims.

If you want something different for something around 200k to 300k, maybe you can consider the Mazda6 2.3L 2006-2008 or the Honda Accord 7th gen 2003-2007. Fuel consumption would be about the same as the 2.0L compacts but you get bigger interior space and more powerful engines. Another option is the Civic ES 2.0L 2004-2005 but its platform is older.

**jut703** · September 15th, 2017 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by Vodka

this is the sort of thing that's making me hesitate in getting a FORD

eh kung ecosport m/t kaya?

My staff's Ecosport Trend MT has 77,000 km already and so far nothing major has been replaced - just the usual oil change.

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**jokwa114** · September 15th, 2017 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by Egan101

I think the hatchback came only with the 1.6L engine. The 2.0L Mazda3 came in sedan form with sunroof and stock 17" rims.

If you want something different for something around 200k to 300k, maybe you can consider the Mazda6 2.3L 2006-2008 or the Honda Accord 7th gen 2003-2007. Fuel consumption would be about the same as the 2.0L compacts but you get bigger interior space and more powerful engines. Another option is the Civic ES 2.0L 2004-2005 but its platform is older.

Thanks!

Am now choosing between Altis 1.6V/G (2009-2011) or Civic 1.8s (2006-2009).

Was almost about to consider a Mazda 3 2.0, but read na it has lackluster FC compared to the two mentioned above.

Almost considered the Accord, the 2003-2007 design seems to have not aged at all, but ultimately did not because of FC and potential high maintenance cost because parts maybe a lot more expensive.

**lowslowbenz** · September 15th, 2017 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by jokwa114

Budget lang din kasi ay around 200-300. Kaya limited options.

Out of the box suggestion.

Here's a nice Camry.

https://www.*******/item/2005-toyota...l?h=a098a5d482

**JJB** · September 15th, 2017 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by jokwa114

Is the Ford Focus really that bad?

We're planning on getting a second hand 2008-2010 Ford Focus Hatchback.

Reading this thread, I am now hesitant. Please enlighten me.

Yup, really bad ang ford focus. Best example is my dad-in-law's 2010 focus tdci AT. Talagang transmission ang problem and ford libis quoted 400k! Kaibigan pa nya mga Laus and regilar ang pms! He eventually sold it still with a broken tranny at 180k only. For a 6yr old car, he lost almost 80% value.
Side note: he still has the previous model explorer which is still strong despite a few glitches. Baka mas matibay mga SUV ng ford than their sedans?

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**Egan101** · September 15th, 2017 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by jokwa114

Almost considered the Accord, the 2003-2007 design seems to have not aged at all, but ultimately did not because of FC and potential high maintenance cost because parts maybe a lot more expensive.

Based on experience, I found midsize cars to be built tougher than compacts and subcompacts. They have better suspension and platforms. If you are looking at the usual oil change and filters, it will be around the same cost as with a compact plus just an additional liter of oil. Unless you have a broken engine or tranny or aircon or power steering system, then it will be expensive like a compact with a similar problem.

**jokwa114** · September 15th, 2017 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by lowslowbenz

Out of the box suggestion.

Here's a nice Camry.

https://www.*******/item/2005-toyota...l?h=a098a5d482

Wouldn't a Camry, and transitively, an Accord, have worse fuel consumption compared to a Civic or an Altis?

**JJB** · September 16th, 2017 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by jokwa114

Wouldn't a Camry, and transitively, an Accord, have worse fuel consumption compared to a Civic or an Altis?

Due to a bigger engine displacement and heavier body, definitely itll have worse FC

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**Egan101** · September 16th, 2017 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by jokwa114

Wouldn't a Camry, and transitively, an Accord, have worse fuel consumption compared to a Civic or an Altis?

The usual compact with a small 1.6L engine would do around 7-8 km/L on hellish metro traffic. A midsize car with something like between 2.0L to 2.5L engines will do around 6-7 km/L, similar to gas CUVs (CRV, Forester, etc.).

An Accord or Camry or Mazda6 is more comfortable inside and quicker/faster than a Civic, Altis, or Mazda3. If you're willing to trade a bit of fuel expense for a better ride, then a midsize car is worth it.

**hypnos** · September 16th, 2017 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by JJB

Yup, really bad ang ford focus. Best example is my dad-in-law's 2010 focus tdci AT. Talagang transmission ang problem and ford libis quoted 400k! Kaibigan pa nya mga Laus and regilar ang pms! He eventually sold it still with a broken tranny at 180k only. For a 6yr old car, he lost almost 80% value.
Side note: he still has the previous model explorer which is still strong despite a few glitches. Baka mas matibay mga SUV ng ford than their sedans?

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mine's still runs well at 75k. and i have a very heavy foot. the PS tranny even shifts better than when it was new(never jerked on me). i reckon your folks didnt service the tranny well. sayang the tranny could have been repaired by specialist at below half of what he was quoted. And yes, I would avoid Libis for service at all costs.
Side Note: the PS tranny maintenance is not included in the regular PMS. Contrary to ford's belief that it doesn't need servicing.