Shell v-power diesel vs shell fuelsave diesel.

**tidus1203** · October 7th, 2017 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by jut703

No it doesn't. Same cetane rating for both.

Whether VPD or FSD, it's stored in the exact same tank in the depot. The additives are only added later on when the fuel is loaded in the lorry.

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But then its from the UK but I am assuming Shell worldwide has same standards given such a global company would impose some common standards. But then if you are from Pilipinas Shell and if you say so then I concede...

V-Power Nitro + Diesel has special detergents inside that break up deposits, allowing the engine's injectors to spray freely (like a fresh new watering can). As the fuel travels through the injectors, it picks up the deposits and cleans them out, restoring the injectors, giving you an optimised fuel spray pattern and thus better combustion.

V Power Nitro+ Diesel also has a higher cetane rating (or combustion speed) than some ordinary diesel. This higher rating (an inverse of the octane number in petrol) means it tends to produce less soot during combustion, minimising the likelihood of your injectors being blocked again once cleaned. Any newly-removed soot is burnt as part of the combustion process and ejected via the exhausts.

What is Shell V-Power Nitro+ Diesel and is it worth it?

**StockEngine** · October 7th, 2017 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by tidus1203

But then its from the UK but I am assuming Shell worldwide has same standards given such a global company would impose some common standards. But then if you are from Pilipinas Shell and if you say so then I concede...

What is Shell V-Power Nitro+ Diesel and is it worth it?

a bunch of guys have compared the two diesels from shell... they say that they don't feel any difference. This verifies what kuya Jut is saying.

**oj88** · October 7th, 2017 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by tidus1203

But then its from the UK but I am assuming Shell worldwide has same standards given such a global company would impose some common standards. But then if you are from Pilipinas Shell and if you say so then I concede...

What is Shell V-Power Nitro+ Diesel and is it worth it?

It is possible that the higher tier fuel have cetane enhancers while the lower tier does not.

**tidus1203** · October 7th, 2017 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by StockEngine

a bunch of guys have compared the two diesels from shell... they say that they don't feel any difference. This verifies what kuya Jut is saying.

I guess same arguments can be said for petrol too with those higher RON fuels. I mean I too can't feel the difference with Petron XCS (95) and their Euro 4 100octane on my Lexus IS if meron man. Much less even on a Yaris. Depends na din what car you tested it if it would make a difference or not...

In any case even the fuelsave one would meet the minimum requirements of all diesel cars being sold here...

**jut703** · October 7th, 2017 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by tidus1203

But then its from the UK but I am assuming Shell worldwide has same standards given such a global company would impose some common standards. But then if you are from Pilipinas Shell and if you say so then I concede...

What is Shell V-Power Nitro+ Diesel and is it worth it?

No, PSPC's fuel isn't exactly the same as what the UK offers. Fuel configs are different per market.

Local Shell base fuel comes from different sources - some from Shell's Tabangao refinery, some from Petron's Limay refinery, and so on. But what's common among all of them is that FuelSave and V-Power diesel both come from the same base fuel and the differentiation comes from the additives used.

Originally Posted by tidus1203

I guess same arguments can be said for petrol too with those higher RON fuels. I mean I too can't feel the difference with Petron XCS (95) and their Euro 4 100octane on my Lexus IS if meron man. Much less even on a Yaris. Depends na din what car you tested it if it would make a difference or not...

In any case even the fuelsave one would meet the minimum requirements of all diesel cars being sold here...

Petron XCS has a different base fuel from Petron Blaze (similar case with FuelSave 91 and VPower 95 and VPower Racing 97). Separate tanks in the depot, different base fuel RON ratings, different additives as well.

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**oj88** · October 7th, 2017 10:50 PM

Jut,

What can you say about Caltex' Diesel fuel with TechronD? They don't sell any other tier.

If you compare it to Shell and Petron's offerings, which tier does Caltex' Diesel go up against?

**jut703** · October 7th, 2017 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by StockEngine

Thats why I still think the fuel save has little to no additives ..making it pesoses cheaper than its premium diesel fuel brother.

Pricing is artificial. The difference in additives for FuelSave and V-Power is much less than the P2.50/L premium.

Originally Posted by oj88

I agree. It must have less additives by volume or it's missing a few additives altogether, which equates to a lower production cost. But it can't be sold without an additive so it can't be 100% straight Diesel.

It's not 100% diesel. For one, all local fuels need 2% CME. Then there's the additives for FuelSave as well. Production cost is pretty much the same for FuelSave and V-Power.

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**monty_GTV** · October 8th, 2017 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by jut703

Pricing is artificial. The difference in additives for FuelSave and V-Power is much less than the P2.50/L premium.

It's not 100% diesel. For one, all local fuels need 2% CME. Then there's the additives for FuelSave as well. Production cost is pretty much the same for FuelSave and V-Power.

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that's why at the same average fuel consumption, you pay less with the cheaper FuelSave and get the same mileage...

**Aussy** · October 9th, 2017 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by marbintorres

Hi. Im confused about the formulation differences between shell vpower diesel and the fuelsave diesel. Is it really a more refined diesel or just the same but with additives? And what kind of additives? Will it be beneficial to old diesel engines just like my nissan pickup's bd25 or are they just for commonrail diesels?

Thank you! Have a great weekend.

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They are both the same fuel from the same refineries the only difference is that the V-Power has more additives in it that's all.
If your driving a modern vehicle then use V-Power it will help your fuel injectors but only in the long run.
And buy fuel from a clean place especially were they sell alot allot of fuel that way you won't be buying old fuel that's been in the ranks too long.

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**yebo** · October 9th, 2017 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by tidus1203

I guess same arguments can be said for petrol too with those higher RON fuels. I mean I too can't feel the difference with Petron XCS (95) and their Euro 4 100octane on my Lexus IS if meron man. Much less even on a Yaris. Depends na din what car you tested it if it would make a difference or not...

In any case even the fuelsave one would meet the minimum requirements of all diesel cars being sold here...

correct me if i am wrong but the only difference is that the 100 octane fuel will let you run at red line WITHOUT FEAR of engine knock and nothing more. higher octane rating does not equate to more power or better efficiency.

incidentally i filled up with vpd yesterday on the way to tagaytay ONLY BECAUSE my son wants the toy cars. i got 4. ass feel says same power as my regular cheaper and p2 discounted unioil diesel. and definitely lower mileage. my makati to sta rosa run registered 10.6 km/l at a leisurely 90-100 kph and the return trip sta rosa to makati run registered a bit higher 10.8 km/l (most probably due to lower air temp during the night). on unioil diesel this would have been 11.5 km/l at an average speed of 100 kph. trip computers don't suffer from placebo effect so there you go.