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March 31st, 2011 12:11 AM #1
Anyone running this here? I decided to go ahead and get this for my Elgrand for a few reasons, one being the Elgrands filter is hard to find being 1" 12unf thread and second I have tons of space after removing the stock airbox.
People have been doing these as Do it Yourself jobs for years on diesels Amsoil is now selling them (way overprice) IMO.
I am using this kit with a Fleetguad bypass filter with sythetic media and Fleetguard full flow filter. Which will equal the Amsiol.
About bypass filtration.
• What is add-on bypass oil filtration?
It is a secondary filtration unit with the purpose of super-cleaning engine oil. It has high
contaminant-holding capacity and filters out the smallest particles to include sludge and
soot in special cases. It also reduces engine wear and may increase oil volume.
• Where is bypass filtration used today?
Bypass filtration is standard on all Cummins automotive heavy-duty and larger turbo diesel engines
and on Mack Applications. It has been used as options and/or standard on Caterpillar, Detroit.
Reason for doing this on a diesel.
- Removes small particles and soot
- Extends engine life
- Increases oil capacity
- Extends oil change interval
- Reduces engine wear
By-pass lube filters are designed to capture and hold small abrasive particles that pass through the full-flow filter. Though microscopic in size, these particles are a major contributor to faster wear of internal engine parts.
Any type of by-pass filter of reasonable quality will effect some reduction in engine wear rates compared to that obtained with full-flow elements alone. The more efficient the by-pass filter is in reducing the total contamination level of the lubricating oil, the more effective it will be in reducing wear rates.
Extensive testing has shown that quality element type by-pass filters in combination with full-flow filters can extend engine wear life two to three times. Further testing with the centrifugal type cleaner has shown an additional reduction in wear of 54%. It is believed that the superior performance of the centrifuge results not only from its ability to remove abrasive particles down to 1 micrometer and below but also to the extraction of carbon soot agglomerates to a far greater degree than is possible with element type filters.
A lot of post on hear always asking about the best oil but if your still using a low quality filter like VIC, and other no name Japan or China made filters then what's the point of getting good oil if it's dirty. Many OEM filters are also junk like Toyota it's what's on the inside not the outside of a filter that matters.
Basic set up but you can also mount it under hood which many do. I know many TD42's have dual filters and Pajeros 4D56 and 4M40's have a combo filter with 2 elements so basically a stacked bypass filter.
The whole oil filter quality thing has not really been covered well on the forum. So I figured it's about time.
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March 31st, 2011 01:57 AM #2
What's in your filter?
OEM Toyota comparison.
OEM Honda
Nissan / MANN OEM filter
Nissan OEM
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March 31st, 2011 02:10 AM #4
Typical Japan filters
These are the higher end Fleet service filters you cannot get over the counter at your local auto parts stores in the U.S.
Fleetguard made by Cummins and what I run.
Baldwin also a excellent brand.
WIX which is over the counter but well built.
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March 31st, 2011 02:18 AM #5
Higher end synthetic fiber filters which are great for a bypass filter set up or just high quality replacement. With these regardless of brand they seem to come from the same factory vs the normal cellulose (paper) media filters.
Royal purple
Donaldson
AMSOIL
Fleetguard
Baldwin (has a cellulose synthetic blend)
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March 31st, 2011 02:51 AM #6
What company makes what filters?
Fram
Honda OEM
Chrysler line up except for the Cummins
Penzoil
All Fram models
Champion Labs
Bosch
Car and Driver
Deutsch
Mobil 1
STP
SuperTech
K&N
Luberfiner
Trust
Wix
Carquest blue
Carquest red
Napa Gold
Napa Silver
Purolator
Purolator premium plus
Purolator Pure One
Havoline
Maxlife Valvoline (some)
Group7
Pro Line
MotorCraft
Superflo
Valvoline filters
Denso
Toyota
Mann+Hummel
Mann
Volvo
Clarcor
Hastings
Amsoil
Casite
Cummins makes Fleetguard
Baldwin makes Baldwin
Donaldson makes Donaldson
Fram (Honeywell) makes some Honda OE filters. So does Filtech. Filtech is a US division of Toyo Roki in Japan. Toyo Roki also makes the Subaru WRX and STi (turbos) filters.
JHF FILTERS Korean
Fil filters (Korea) (Label says Toyota)
OKIYA filters (CHINA)
Sakura filters (Japan)
Ryco (Austraila)
VIC (Japan)
Ginza (Japan)
Power Long (Korea)
Your oil is only as good as the filter your using.
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November 7th, 2017 05:07 AM #7[/QUOTE]
JHF FILTERS Korean
Fil filters (Korea) (Label says Toyota)
OKIYA filters (CHINA)
Sakura filters (Japan)
Ryco (Austraila)
VIC (Japan)
Ginza (Japan)
Power Long (Korea)
Your oil is only as good as the filter your using.[/QUOTE]
Just to make things clear
Ginza is not a Japanese brand its from China or Taiwan (One of the worst filters in the market)
Sakura is also not a Japanese brand
It's an Indonesian manufacturer using a Japanese name
Power Long is not from Korea it is from China
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October 6th, 2020 04:04 PM #8
dvlcoc kung magonline ka ulit eh ikaw nagpasikat nito sa pinas,
Baldwin BD28 Dual-Flow Oil Filter – Car Suspension & Steering – Quezon City, Philippines | Facebook Marketplace
but i still dont like your advice of blanking EGR. Just too barriotic of an advice
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December 5th, 2020 08:00 AM #9
Tagal nang di kumibo tong thread ah.
Anong current favorite diesel oil nyo mga bossing?
Akin is “budget-meals” Shell Rimula 10w-40 low ash LD5 with API CK-4 service category for Php 270 only per liter. Tapos paired with Baldwin BT223 oil filter para sa 2017 Toyota Hilux revo ko.
Napansin ko na sa fb car groups nalang palaging nagtatanong regarding oils at napmsin ko din na halos lahat ng sumasagot is palaging fully synthetic ang pinupuri. Pero mali naman ang API service category (pang petrol/gasoline engines ang ni-recommenda na oil). Kung hindi naman mali, eh yung service manual ng kotse ang palaging pinu-push na kung saan palaging API CF or ACEA B or C pa ang nakasulat.
Baka hindi alam ng engineers ng kotse na ang nakasulat sa kanilang service manual is obsolete or backwards pa. Or baka copy at paste lang ang service manual sa lumang editions.
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December 5th, 2020 10:07 AM #10
One can only hope.
Cheaper brands than Motolite but reliable as well