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    #51
    another thing i learned is that is going up a hill entails using the 2nd or third gear, better use that gear to do downhill din to support your brakes.
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    #52
    Quote Originally Posted by RustyXIII View Post
    Never do this. It can cause you to spin out.
    No, if you use it while in a straight downhill and your speed is already slowed by the engine in low gear and some tapping of the primary brakes. I have done it many times and no problem so far.

    Sobrang Fast and Furious movies ata napapanood mo bro ah. Turo yan ng mga 4x4 and offroad experts sa akin. Puwede din kasi uminit ng husto brakes mo kaya sometimes, using the hand brake in tandem with the whole process I first posted above helps. Sorry if I got you confused. Baka akala mo yun lang gagamitin.
    Last edited by Ry_Tower; May 27th, 2011 at 10:41 AM. Reason: wrong spelling
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    #53
    ^^Your funeral... Or if you're lucky, just medical and repair bills.

    There are lots of sound offroading/4X4 techniques that does not translate well to the road. In going downhill, the weight of the car shifts to the front, and with the balance being biased to the front even at rest, you risk making the rear lose grip and become unstable. Add a potential lockup situation and you get the picture.

    The techniques your offroading buddies told you is only used when even low range is not low enough. Now, if that's the case, then you probably shouldn't be up there in the first place...
    Last edited by RustyXIII; May 29th, 2011 at 03:25 PM. Reason: Trolling repiles never help anyone...

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    #54
    Quote Originally Posted by kurby View Post
    I thought using engine brake will not consume gasoline? Especially EFI's?
    This is what I also have in mind, in our company before they certify us to drive company vehicles they give us seminars and one of those is in "Eco driving". In this seminar, engine braking was also discussed. Its not only during downhill that you can use engine braking actually you can use this technique on your everyday driving to conserved fuel. Please correct me if im wrong.

    When driving you can use engine break when you see traffic ahead to gradually slow your car down before it reach near stop without down shifting. Note at this point you don't gas up just wait before you can fully stop in case and that is the time you press your clutch then shift your gear. Correct me again if I'm wrong.

    Just one thing moving in my mind, if we use engine break this way will there be any problems we might encounter with our engine or this is just logical.

    For more info on this type of engine breaking you can try asking my friend google for more info.
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    #55
    reviving this thread. been an engine braker for a year now. however, i would like to review how you do this yourselves or style/preference.

    situation: 60-70 kph downhill zigzag (e.g marcos hiway)
    style A: depress clutch and then immediately downshift to 1 gear while clutch is still engaged -> quickly blip throttle to rev-match and immediately release clutch

    style B: depress clutch and then quickly blip throttle to rev-match, while clutch is still engaged quickly downshift to 1 gear and quickly release clutch.

    right now, i am more accustomed to style A. please post your opinions, comments, and or if there's another/better way of doing it. appreciate it much.

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    #56
    ^ Hindi na ako nagrerev-match. Downshift lang.

    I don't do it often though, di naman kailangan yun sa usual routes ko.

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    #57
    question lang, applicable ba ang rev-matching sa pag engine break or pag slow down?

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    #58
    imho, yes. rev-matching allows the closest/safest possible rpm from the previous high gear.

    check this related thread also: http://tsikot.com/forums/engine-fuel...tml#post145221
    Last edited by ash0279; May 15th, 2012 at 04:58 PM. Reason: typo

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    #59
    Quote Originally Posted by ash0279 View Post
    imho, yes. rev-matching allows the closest/safest possible rpm from the previous high gear.

    check this related thread also: http://tsikot.com/forums/engine-fuel...tml#post145221
    ah ok. akala ko sa pag-accelerate lang... thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RustyXIII View Post
    ^^Your funeral... Or if you're lucky, just medical and repair bills.

    There are lots of sound offroading/4X4 techniques that does not translate well to the road. In going downhill, the weight of the car shifts to the front, and with the balance being biased to the front even at rest, you risk making the rear lose grip and become unstable. Add a potential lockup situation and you get the picture.

    The techniques your offroading buddies told you is only used when even low range is not low enough. Now, if that's the case, then you probably shouldn't be up there in the first place...
    Masyado ka nagbabasa nito ah, halos nakopya mo pa yung reply ng isa.

    Use of handbrake on downhill - Australian Land Rover Owners
    If the hill is so steep that first low has you going too fast, maybe you shouldn't be there in the first place.
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    Real life experience is better and the type of vehicle and road is also a factor in using hand brake sometimes during a long downhill descent. Mahirap yung nage-generalize kasi eh (BTW they are talking about LR's in that forum). Tignan mo yung ibang posts dyan, nakatulong din yung hand brake since the normal brakes are starting to fade na due to heat. Just do this on a stright downhill para wala yung potential of a lock-up.
    Last edited by Ry_Tower; May 15th, 2012 at 05:58 PM.
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