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May 14th, 2012 09:19 PM #611
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May 14th, 2012 11:33 PM #612
Cost me P140/liter for an FC rated green colored 2T oil c/o PTT. Not bad! Will check if it makes any difference compared to Shell's FB rated gold colored 2T at P120/liter.
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May 14th, 2012 11:50 PM #613Navara D40 (lagi gamit ko), the rest na natry ko lagyan ay D4d innova, old and new Euro2 4d56(L300), 3.2 strada (maingay parin kahit lagyan). BD25 eagle, old hilux 2L.
Re DPF- bihira may DPF dito almost PCV, CAT, at EGR lang ang emission control. So basically kung diesel car mo sa Pinas, pede gamitan ng 2t (as earlier mentioned - not to include euro-designed diesel with high rail pressure and piezo electric injectors).
For the D40 specific topic about 2t you may look here - Adding 2-Stroke oil to Diesel - Page 41 - The Navara Forum
or here - Freel2.com - View topic - 2-stroke oil and diesel
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May 15th, 2012 12:29 AM #614
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May 18th, 2012 06:44 PM #615Good day sirs. Read through the entire post (back read some portions 3 times, hehe) and I am about ready to take the plunge and try if 2t will do some good for my high mileage diesel engine (my ride by the way is a local gen 1 pajero, 4d56 non-turbo, 300k plus on the odo). But before I do bite the bullet, summarize ko lang uli:
1. Any 2t will do except synthetic (might go for shell with decarbonizer)
2. Stick to recommended ratio of 50ml 2t for every 10ltrs of diesel (not sure yet ano max capacity ng tank, haven't had a full tank yet since acquiring it last feb 2012)
3. No compatibility issues even if I mix shell 2t with petron diesel max (been using it kasi since I got the paj)
4. Fully reversible if I do decide to stop using it in the future (2-3 tanks cycle without the 2t)
5. Possibility of increased smoke from the tailpipe on first use due to start of cleaning action (the paj is relatively smoke free; kapapalit ko din ng fuel filter kasabay ng change oil/oil filter)
6. Not expected to increase power but will simply lubricate the injection pump
7. Expected to make the engine run smoother/quieter and lessen, if not eliminate shut off shudder (engine is indeed noisy, you can hear it coming from a km away, hahaha)
8. Might improve fuel consumption, although not guaranteed (I think my engine is currently ranging between 4-5 kms/ltr, uhaw masyado)
9. Doesn't matter if lagay muna 2t bago fill up with diesel or vice versa
Did I miss anything? Or misunderstood anything?
Also, I do believe it hasn't been mentioned in the thread (or I may have missed it), just some follow up clarifications:
1. Would adding 2t possibly address fuel knock (the mechanic who serviced the paj during change oil/filters mentioned something about my engine showing signs of this)?
2. Would it matter if the breather hose is no longer connected to the intake tube (mine has this set up, d na naka connect, extended hose na lang from breather to wherever it exits under the vehicle; haven't had the chance to install an OCC)?
Finally, asked three mechanics about putting 2t, they haven't heard about it and skeptical to say the least. Am hoping the facts and experiences so generously shared in this thread would show in my ride as well.
Some more encouragement would definitely be welcomed!
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May 18th, 2012 07:06 PM #616bro try mo na... 300k na pala odo nyan 4d56 mo eh... sa engine noise naman medyo ma lessen yan pero kung yung noise mo eh galing na sa valves wala na magagawa dyan unless mag palit ka ng cams
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May 21st, 2012 09:16 PM #618
4-5 kms per liter, sounds pretty low, The 2T will definetly help clean your nozzles and lube your injection pump, which could be one of the problems for your low fuel economy. My Elgrand gets like 11km per liter hwy and 9km per liter city. I would see about getting your ride tuned.
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May 21st, 2012 09:51 PM #619Hi dvldoc. Was hoping you would read my post. Anyway, did I understand everything about the process correctly? Already bought the shell 2t with decarbonizer but haven't used it yet. Had a full tank over the weekend and wanted to measure FC first without the 2t so I will have a solid benchmark when I do start using it.
By the way, the 4-5 kms/ltr is still an unsupported guess as of the moment since I haven't had the chance to measure it from full tank. Will know by the end of the week after I top up again.
So, back to the questions I left on the post: will fuel knock possibly be addressed? Do I have to re install the breather hose to the intake tube?
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May 22nd, 2012 01:06 AM #620
Fuel knock is normally from a dirty nozzle this is something the 2T can help with for sure. It's also caused by a poor performing injector pump. Older engines do not like ULSD fuel.
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