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    #11
    So, a PHEV is an EV with a genset in the trunk?

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    #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Motortrend View Post
    So, a PHEV is an EV with a genset in the trunk?
    The Cherry Tiggo 7 Pro is a PHEV with a full-turbocharged engine + electric motor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motortrend View Post
    So, a PHEV is an EV with a genset in the trunk?
    It depends on how they implemented the ICE part of things. I think Nissan's E-power (albeit a hybrid) acts like that but Toyota's, BYD's, and Mitsubishi's Hybrid/PHEV implementation can switch between EV, Series(genset-style usage for the ICE) and Parallel Hybrid(ICE+Electric motor Propulsion) modes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motortrend View Post
    So, a PHEV is an EV with a genset in the trunk?
    ICE -- gas/diesel engine

    EV -- purely electric

    Hybrid -- combo of ICE+battery. No need to plug-in as the ICE recharges the battery, like Nissan Kicks .

    PHEV -- Plug-in Hybrid EV. To primarily recharge the battery, will need to plug into an electric outlet.

    BYD SL6 is claiming to have a fuel economy of 90 km/l running on combo of ICE+battery.

    What's also unique about this BYD SL6 is you can use it's battery to power your appliances and potentially house since there's a plug provided to power out. Tesla still refuses to do this with their EVs while Ford allows it with their electric F150 Lightning.

    So the SL6 can be used to power your gadgets and appliances during emergencies.

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    Thanks for clarifying.

    The Top Gear article is confusing as it said this:

    "The Sealion 6 is essentially a plug-in hybrid, but unlike typical PHEVs, the Super DM-i technology here propels the vehicle using the electric motor instead of the combustion engine. The ‘Blade Battery’ provides all-electric range of up to 100km depending on driving conditions, and if it begins to run out of juice on the road, the engine kicks in as a range extender to recharge the battery and stretch the range up to 1,000km."

    So, was thinking, what's so earth "shaking" about that.

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    Nissan Kicks is a Series Hybrid. its wheels are being driven by an electric motor, the gasoline engine does not drive the wheels, it gives power to the battery that runs the electric Motor which drives the wheels.

    Toyota's Hybrid is a Parallel hybrid. The gasoline engine is connected to the drive train which is also connected to an electric motor. So both the Gasoline engine and the Electric Motor can drive the wheels. It can run on purely gasoline engine or both gas engine and EV motor for maximum torque and acceleration.

    in both types of hybrids you can go full EV mode (gas engine not running) but only up to a low speed (15-20 mph threshold speed for the prius, not sure of the others) and only if the battery has enough juice. Once the battery percentage goes low then the gas engine kicks in to provide charge even if you are running in speed below the threshold. The battery on these hybrids are also quite small and can't be charged by a wall charger.

    A PHEV on the other hand can go both pure EV without the gas engine kicking in or Go pure Gas Engine for maximum range.
    The PHEV also has a way bigger battery than your regular hybrids plus you can charge it externally with a wall charger.
    Not sure thou if the battery of the PHEV can be recharged by the gas engine when it is running or if it will just use the regenerative properties of the PHEV to recharge its batteries.

    Regenerative braking is when electric power is captured by braking or slowing down of the car. its use to add range to EV, PHEV and Hybrid cars

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    #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Motortrend View Post
    Thanks for clarifying.

    The Top Gear article is confusing as it said this:

    "The Sealion 6 is essentially a plug-in hybrid, but unlike typical PHEVs, the Super DM-i technology here propels the vehicle using the electric motor instead of the combustion engine. The ‘Blade Battery’ provides all-electric range of up to 100km depending on driving conditions, and if it begins to run out of juice on the road, the engine kicks in as a range extender to recharge the battery and stretch the range up to 1,000km."

    So, was thinking, what's so earth "shaking" about that.
    Its the price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 111prez View Post
    EV range is only 100km. Very limited. Not practical. But you can plug it to recharge.
    But it is not similar to the Nissan e-Power tech. Or is it???? Kopya na naman?

    100 km battery range is more than enough for most people ...

    Copyright infringement is what chinese companies are good at ... BYD SeaLion is a copycat or a Porsche Cayenne ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonemus View Post
    PHEV -- Plug-in Hybrid EV. To primarily recharge the battery, will need to plug into an electric outlet.

    PHEVs don't necessarily NEED to be plugged to charged ... they can function without ever having to plug-in ...

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    #20
    Panis ang Mitsubishi Outlander sa pricing nito.
    I don't see any Outlander PHEV in the road.

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