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August 23rd, 2010 10:13 AM #1
Hi, teammate, thanks for the kind words.
Regarding diesel... CRDi owners are really held hostage by the kind of diesel they put in. How many times have you heard of dealerships weaseling out of warranty claims on fuel systems because the customer loaded up "contaminated" diesel?
The sad part is... it's true. A common-rail system won't break unless it meets something it doesn't like. A little too much biodiesel... say goodbye to your pump and injectors (biodiesel is a good detergent for older diesels, but it just breaks down in high-heat high-pressure systems). A little too much water... clogged filter... say goodbye to your pump. A little too much sulfur... say goodbye to your injectors. Contaminants? Goodbye injectors and pump.
Lucky you (seriously) if the eventual damage (and it will happen, eventually) occurs within warranty. Or unlucky you... for the breakdowns and time wasted... as some unlucky owners of certain Japanese diesels can attest to. Even the best systems will succumb eventually. Read the European and Australian boards (I read a lot of them) and you'll see many complaints of injector and pump failures due to bad diesel.
The interesting thing is, both Petron and Shell are making a show of differentiating their diesels. These come out of bespoke pumps and are only available in certain stations. I think some manufacturers will be eyeing this with interest. Some already recommend specific gasolines only for their cars... soon, they may be specifying specific diesels.
If you want to be a segurista, use the boutique diesels exclusively if you have a common-rail. The price premium isn't so high, and these modern common-rails are more economical than the old school ones, so it evens out. (more powerful given the same power... obviously... very powerful common-rails are thirstier than economy-tuned old-schools)
But first, we have to wait to find out whether the manufacturers think it's good enough to extend warranty coverage if you use them exclusively. And if the sulfur levels meet at least Euro IV and V requirements.
Otherwise... if you own a Focus... just pick a clean station and stick with it until these things iron out. The Focus' injectors aren't especially sensitive... and they should last a good 100,000 - 200,000 kilometers as long as you don't get any contaminated fuel on a regular basis. You can try a few tanks of boutique diesel to flush... but you won't need it on a regular basis unless you start losing power or economy. When that happens, it's easy to tell... I've driven test units that felt rather doggy but perked up when given some diesel additive. If you're the daily driver of the car, you'll notice the difference even more easily.
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August 23rd, 2010 10:31 AM #2
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August 23rd, 2010 11:41 AM #5
so the new diesel is GTL?
how much per liter?
P36+?
hindi pala ganun kalayo presyo nyan sa ordinary diesel
kala ko GTL diesel would be more expensive than that
now i wonder if it's really GTL
or is it GTL na may halo ordinary diesel
hehe
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August 23rd, 2010 12:30 PM #6
if Shell's new diesel is really GTL, then it's superior to Petron's new diesel which is ordinary diesel with additives
too bad Petron doesnt have a GTL facility
Shell has one in Malaysia
probably that's where Pilipinas Shell imports the new diesel from
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August 25th, 2010 06:55 PM #7
I trust Shell more than Petron and Caltex. And V-Power, subok na talaga ito kahit nung Shell Velocity pa ang name nito so I think magbenefit talaga ang diesel engines dito.
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September 4th, 2010 03:21 PM #8
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August 23rd, 2010 12:55 PM #9
Actually asked. No. It's similar but not GTL. According to Dr. Fuels, GTL is hella expensive. I just stated that it has similar cetane.
What's premium is likely the additives. Still waiting on a Euro-levels response regarding sulfur.
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August 23rd, 2010 12:58 PM #10
a ok
i was wondering the price is too low if it's GTL
so more or less same lang with Petron's new diesel
Carry on then.
Cheaper brands than Motolite but reliable as well