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    #11
    Quote Originally Posted by alwayz_yummy
    testimonial nila:
    "kahit di mo daw apakan ung gas, di daw namatay ang makina!"-->hello, kung a/t, di talaga noh! sa m/t it will run too!
    hindi ata sila marunong sa kotse, most modern cars eh hindi na madaling mamatayan ng makina, diesel nga eh tatalsik ka pag nabitawan mo clutch hehe

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    #12
    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter
    hi ghosthunter, im new to this forum, i actually just submitted here an ad yesterday promoting HOB. i found your tony article very interesting. for yourself, what is your criteria for the effectiveness of a fuel saver aside from improving your mileage and maintaining your car's normal working performance?

    since you were the one who posted this tony article, and you are a moderator here, id like to invite you to come to our headoffice in QC (near ABS-CBN Compound), so we can show to you the principles and theories behind it, and likewise, so that you can get to meet HOBs humble inventor, Mr. Glenn Castillo. bring along a few of your friends if you like.

    the AVP and the flash demo i uploaded can only do so much, actual demo is always the best.

    tell me your convenient date and time (early next week?), we'll make sure it'll be worth your while.... hoping for your confirmation on this one. cheers!

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    #13
    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter
    I stumbled into this website and looks interesting, especially these days of high gas prices.


    http://www.gassavers.org
    ghosthunter, id like to invite you or anyone here in our upcoming events:

    Sept 24, 2005 - Drag Racing Event Sponsorhip
    At Diosdado Macapagal Hway, Pasay City

    Sept 28, 2005 - Truck Show At SM Megatrade Hall
    Oct 02, 2005


    allow us to enlighten you that what we're selling here is not a myth. if you just wanna go there unannounced or 'walk in' query lang, ok lang din, just visit our HOB booth, and look for Mr. Glenn Castillo - the inventor and manufacturer.

    Cheers!


    HOB Info and Links

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    #14
    hmmm....

    Quote Originally Posted by kali_rj

    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter
    I stumbled into this website and looks interesting, especially these days of high gas prices.


    http://www.gassavers.org
    ghosthunter, id like to invite you or anyone here in our upcoming events:

    Sept 24, 2005 - Drag Racing Event Sponsorhip
    At Diosdado Macapagal Hway, Pasay City

    Sept 28, 2005 - Truck Show At SM Megatrade Hall
    Oct 02, 2005


    allow us to enlighten you that what we're selling here is not a myth. if you just wanna go there unannounced or 'walk in' query lang, ok lang din, just visit our HOB booth, and look for Mr. Glenn Castillo - the inventor and manufacturer.

    Cheers!


    HOB Info and Links
    Glenn Castillo?

    Rings a bell doesn't it?

    Read on... Another Water Powered Engine Thread
    Last edited by mazdamazda; September 21st, 2005 at 07:22 PM.

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    #15
    http://img363.imageshack.us/my.php?image=diagram2lm.jpg
    http://www.geocities.com/rj_hob/HOB.html
    http://p083.ezboard.com/fmotioncarsf...cID=2675.topic

    from the description in the diagram above and cutting through all the marketing blabber... the device is basically a fuel heater. It's designed to "preheat" the fuel (gasoline or diesel) before reaching the combustion chamber. It's effect is to increase the volatility of the fuel at the point of combustion.

    Example, cold diesel fuel will not catch fire but hot diesel fuel will catch fire easily.

    I have read other versions of this type of device where the heat is derived from the exhaust pipe. A length of copper tube is wrapped around the exhaust pipe and is connected to the fuel system. The problem with this specific design layout is the fuel tends to get overheated and boil, causing the engine to run erratically and even stall (due to bubbles of fuel vapor in the fuel line).

    Anyway, from what I have gathered, this gadget can improve milage but only marginally (5% or less).

    I assume people will ask, "Is this device worth buying?"

    Vehicle Type - Radiator Hose Diameter - Price
    Cars / AUV ________- 1.25" - P7,500
    Cars / AUV / SUV ___- 1.50" - P7,500
    SUV ______________- 1.75" - P8,500
    Trucks / Bus _______ - 2.00" - P8,500
    Large Trucks / Bus __- 2.50" - P9,500


    My answer, no... it will take years to get back your investment.
    Last edited by ghosthunter; September 21st, 2005 at 08:10 PM.

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    #16
    Typical construction for this device will look like a section of metal tubing (sized to fit the radiator hose of your car) and some copper tubing coiled tightly around the metal tube.

    Basically anyone handy with a metal saw and pipe bender can build one in an hour or so. Not worth the P7500 to P9500 asking price.
    Last edited by ghosthunter; September 21st, 2005 at 08:20 PM.

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    #17
    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda
    hmmm....



    Glenn Castillo?

    Rings a bell doesn't it?

    Read on... Another Water Powered Engine Thread


    oh well ... its not for everyone ... i have to apologize about those "nagging" agents sa cherry, karamihan sa kanila installers din lang. i'll tell Glenn.

    what's so funny about the video?

    before anyone issues a verdict that this is all crap, talk to Glenn first -- wag naman sana bashing from a point of view na kulang ang info.

    fyi, this product has been out since oct 2004. even without alll the fanfare that khaos does, it pretty much sells about 100-200 pcs a week. since then, we've had a lot of repeat orders from end customers and dealers (of course). now would you still say its all BS after all that time? these customers would have found out something couldve probably have gone wrong already right, or the product does not deliver what it claims that it can do. again, it's not for everyone ...

    Glenn is now talking to somebody who will handle his PR (mass media), which he totally lacks.

    Update kita mazdamazda pag meron na result yung "Another Water Powered Engine Thread" ... kung wala update ... eh di walang nangyari ...

    Peace!

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    #18
    Quote Originally Posted by kali_rj
    oh well ... its not for everyone ... i have to apologize about those "nagging" agents sa cherry, karamihan sa kanila installers din lang. i'll tell Glenn.
    I guess those guys are just after their sales commission, right? I guess everyone needs a source of income.

    what's so funny about the video?
    dunno about the video, basically its too big to download without a T1 internet connection. But the flash animation is kinda funny... The voice sounds like it was demanding a ransom or a terrorist demand... hehehe

    BTW, the flash animation is 95% marketing BS.


    fyi, this product has been out since oct 2004. even without alll the fanfare that khaos does, it pretty much sells about 100-200 pcs a week. since then, we've had a lot of repeat orders from end customers and dealers (of course). now would you still say its all BS after all that time? these customers would have found out something couldve probably have gone wrong already right, or the product does not deliver what it claims that it can do. again, it's not for everyone ...

    Glenn is now talking to somebody who will handle his PR (mass media), which he totally lacks.
    if that is all your claim, heck, KHAOS has a better claim... 30 years of "research & development".

    BTW, I am not saying the gadget is BS... its just the pricing makes it a scam.
    Last edited by ghosthunter; September 21st, 2005 at 08:46 PM.

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    #19
    200 pcs per week! wow money money money for glenn!

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    ako ung nagsasabi na somehow i find it funny...kasi cherry is my common grocery, at lahat ng groceries ko/namin dun ko ginagawa.

    lalo na dun sa claims sa video....most are can be done without installing your product.. and it is mostly video of the girls..na honestly, most of the people there tend to look at the girls..not the product, nasasabit lang ung product mismo..ung mga nahihiya, napapatanong nalang...pero siyempre there are some na talagang magtatanong...

    eto ha, most of the time, walang tao sa booth nyu ha...
    Last edited by alwayz_yummy; September 21st, 2005 at 09:03 PM.

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