X-trail, Qashqai or Rouge?

[basti08]

the current X-trail deserves to take its bow. with the coming of more modern, feature packed and more competitive rivals. the X-trail needs to make its graceful exit now before it looses some of its luster. although still selling pretty well in our market, which among these 3 new Nissan compact SUVs would you like to replace our current local market X-trail?

Nissan Qashqai






dashboard

a rotary knob for the 4x4 system

spacious interior with panoramic roof

This is Nissan’s ultimate answer for the C-segment; something practical, with a well-appointed interior, nothing too big, not too intimidating, makes you feel secure, presents a confident image. The dynamic styling of a sports car combined with the rugged strength of an SUV in a compact, fuel efficient package. Nissan went to the drawing board, pulling in the efforts of Nissan Design Europe in London and Nissan Technical Centre Europe based in Cranfield. The result is the 2007 Nissan Qashqai, to be built in Nissan’s factory in Sunderland, England. This is also Nissan’s first major project to be led by Nissan’s European operations.

The 2007 Nissan Qashqai sits between the C-segment hatchbacks and SUVs in term of size, with a wheelbase of 2,630mm. It’s 1,610mm tall, 1,780mm wide and 4,310mm long - which is about 100mm longer than a typical hatchback but 150mm shorter than a typical SUV. Imagine the 2nd generation Toyota RAV4 before it grew larger with the 3rd generation.

4 engine options are available for the 2007 Nissan Qashqai - a 1.6 liter 115PS petrol unit with 160Nm of torque and a 2.0 liter 140PS petrol unit with 200Nm of torque. The remaining 2 are turbodiesels, a 1.5 liter with 106PS and 240Nm of torque and a more powerful 2.0 liter turbodiesel with 150PS and 320Nm of torque. Different gearbox options are available depending in gearbox choice - but generally there are 4 different choices - a 5-speed manual, a 6-speed manual, a 6-speed automatic and Nissan’s X-Tronic CVT transmission.

[basti08]

Nissan X-Trail






dashboard

clever drink coolers... has one on the passenger AC vent

DDS Downhill Drive Support...Nissan's speak of BMW's HDC or Hill Descent Control System

The old X-Trail and this new Nissan X-Trail’s aesthetic differences from the outside is pretty much about the same as the first MINI Cooper and the new 2nd generation R56 MINI Cooper. Looks about the same, yet different. This one’s built on the same chassis as the recent Nissan Qashqai and Nissan Rogue, and comes with four engine choices including two new turbodiesels with Diesel Particulate Filter. Of course, proper off-roading capabilities are there, with a new Intelligent ALL MODE 4×4-i four-wheel drive system, as well as hill start and hill descent control.

Carlos Tavares, Executive Vice President, Corporate Strategy and Product Planning, Nissan Motor Limited says customers asked for the X-Trail replacement to be more of an evolution than a revolution. To just leave things are they are. If Nissan wanted to, it would probably get away with a facelifted exterior or something, but then again that’s pushing it. When the first X-Trail was launched, Nissan expected to sell about 23,000 units a year, but ended up pushing out an average of more than 54,000 a year and now more than 600,000 Nissan X-Trails are on the roads (and off the roads, pun intended) globally. The X-Trail was such a favourite that Nissan is calling the re-used DNA as “X-Trail-ness”.

The new Qashqai platform that this new Nissan X-Trail is based on is supported by a strut-tyep suspension at the front, with a multi-link system at the rear. These suspension points are mounted onto insulated subframes to ensure vibration does not travel to the rest of the car. The new Nissan X-Trail is longer by 175mm, now at 4630mm. Wheelbase has increased by 5mm to 2630mm.

Offroading capabilities include the Intelligent ALL MODE 4×4-i system, a ground clearance of 200mm, as well as a body designed to take approach and departure angles of 28 and 23 degrees respectively. The Intelligent ALL MODE 4×4-i system features a rotary knob on the center console which allows a choice between a 2WD-only mode and an auto mode. In auto mode, at speeds below 80km/h, the system minitors throttle position, engine speed and generation torque to anticipate wheelspin, distributing torque between the front and rear wheels as needed. Above the 80km/h speed, the system shifts to a reactive instead of preemptive sensor system, running mainly in front wheel mode and shifting power to the rear whenever needed. The 4WD system is also in Lock mode below 40km/h.

Two more features allow easier driving over not-so-flat ground - DDS and USS. DDS, or Downhill Drive Support, operates when the 4WD system is in lock mode. DDS is basically a hill descent control system activated from a switch which keeps the Nissan X-Trail at a constant 7km/h when going downhill. Any increase is speed is stopped via the brakes. It works in reverse too. USS is Uphill Start Support, which basically helps you hold the brakes on uphill slopes so the Nissan X-Trail will not roll rearwards. USS activates automatically.

The new Nissan X-Trail comes with 4 engine options - two petrol and two turbodiesel. The 2.5 liter from the current X-Trail is carried over, but is slightly improved. The 2.0 liter model has an all-new engine, making 140hp and 193Nm of torque. 90% of that 193Nm is available from 2,400rpm, giving the new Nissan X-Trail 2.0 liter petrol model more low end grunt, and resulting in a less exhausting drive. The two turbodiesel options are both Renault’s M1D unit with two different levels of tuning. The lower end version is without an intercooler, making 150hp and 320Nm of torque, while the intercooled version makes 173hp and 360Nm of torque. Both the turbodiesel variants make 90% of it’s torque from 1,750rpm. These 4 engine options are mated to a 6-speed transmission by default, however the turbodiesels can be mated to a 6-speed automatic, while the petrol engines get a CVT transmission option.

On the interior, the meter panel has been shifted back to it’s conventional position right in front of the driver, instead of the previous Nissan X-Trail’s centrally-mounted position. The new Nissan X-Trail still carries that serious utilitarian off-roading look to it’s interior - if you want to know what I mean, the best example is the old Pajero’s interior, however in this new generation it is so much more modernized. The center console now hosts a larger navigation screen positioned higher up to be closer to the driver’s eye level, as well as an in-dash CD changer. There’s also a dash-top storage deep enough for a full size tissue box, and a 15.7 liter glovebox.

Now we move on to the storage space. The trunk is now a 603 liter trunk, up from the previous X-Trail’s 410 liters, thanks to the relocation of the rear exhaust muffler position to allow for better interior space. The trunk is of a double deck design, with a sliding drawer under the floor. This can be removed to increase trunk height by 127mm. This large trunk design has allowed X-Trail to add reclining ability to the rear seats, though by not much, only 7 degrees. This enhances rear passenger comfort. The rear seats fold down with a 40:20:40 configuration which has started to be adopted by a few manufacturers lately, and not the conventional old school 60:40 split.

[basti08]

http://nissannews.com/nissan/2008veh...ogue/specs.pdf

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[oldblue]

malamang yun x-trail pa din dalhin dito

[trunks]

*basti08, nice research, very informative. For me, the X-trail looks more macho & mean looking than the others. Still resembles a real sportute.

[aku]

the refreshed x-trail is likely to show up here eventually. but the qashqai/rogue (they're basically the same car diba?) look really good... sana lang

[chr1smj_15]

for Nissan Qashqai...

[AC]

qashqai din po for me...
dahil sa roof siguro.. hehe.. kayalang parang maliit rear window niya noh? mahirap siguro umatras.. hehe

onga po sir.. parang may mali sa new xtrail.. parang too macho hitsura niya.. hindi bagay sa compact suv...

if i were to have one.. parang gusto ko yung old xtrail.. that is.. considering sabay sabay sila lalabas sa market... hehe....
pati interior(dash).. mas gusto ko sa lumang xtrail..

[oldblue]

maganda nga pala eto rogue

By David Thomas
Cars.com
August 24, 2007

For years, Nissan has sat and watched from the sidelines as Honda, Ford and Toyota have ruled the compact SUV segment. Now the Japanese company is jumping into the game with its all-new Rogue, a car that, even in its rookie season, seems ready for the pro-bowl.
Styling
If I see one more SUV with sharp, upswept rear-quarter windows, I'll know it's time to start applying for jobs in automakers' design departments, seeing as they obviously can't come up with anything better. The Rogue is yet another victim of this hackneyed design, but surprisingly the generic profile glass doesn't lead to significant blind spots here like it does in some competitors. Besides the bland styling in the car's profile, the Rogue does stand out as a thoroughly Nissan product.

The front end resembles the larger Murano SUV, which helps the Rogue's "Nissan-ness," but the rear definitely stands out on its own and falls decidedly on the attractive end of the design scale. Large, 17-inch wheels on the SL add to the athletic stance, as does the Rogue's low height compared to its competition.

That height doesn't cut into headroom, but the design inside creates a cockpit feel that's more akin to a sports car than the airy feel of an SUV. That's intentional, and when driving a black-leather-equipped Rogue SL, I definitely had flashbacks to a recent drive in the sportier Altima coupe.

Interior
The interior is one of the Rogue's highpoints. It's almost up to the level of the Honda CR-V, and that's saying a lot. It joins the new Saturn Vue on my list of runners-up to the Honda, and it certainly outshines the Toyota RAV4, Mitsubishi Outlander and Ford Escape. Visually, it all starts with the gauges, which are clear and easy to read. Between the two main gauges is a digital readout for fuel, the trip computer and other information, which is a nice touch. The subtle amber hue of the readouts is repeated throughout the cabin on the gauges and stereo.

I drove Rogues with both cloth and leather interiors. The cloth seats are surprisingly supportive, made of a sturdy material that I don't imagine will wear much over the first few years of ownership. The leather, of course, was a step up, and in black with red stitching it resembled a 350Z. This goes a long way toward Nissan's goal of aiming the Rogue at more of a male demographic than the female-heavy demo Honda looks for. That said, I don't think a sporty interior would be a turnoff to any women I know.

The Rogue has plenty of headroom, hip room and legroom, especially in the rear seat. I rode in a Hummer H3 taxi cab the day before I tested the Rogue, and the seats in Nissan's compact SUV had much better thigh support than the Hummer's, despite the Rogue being a smaller vehicle.

The only major drawback on the inside was the monstrous glove box door. In the ever-escalating — and needless — glove box wars, manufacturers keep trying to one-up each other on the size of the tried-and-true interior storage compartment. Some design glove boxes to fit laptop computers, while others add an MP3 connector and cubby. Nissan's is more than a foot deep and could fit most purses or a large first-aid kit. The problem? The door of the glove box is so low it's nearly impossible for it not to bang the passenger in the shins. If you scoot the seat back so it doesn't bang your legs, it's impossible to reach into the box itself. That's one oversight in an otherwise perfectly executed interior.

Performance
As in the CR-V, Nissan decided to offer just one engine and transmission combination for the Rogue. That engine is a 170-horsepower, 2.5-liter four-cylinder that outdoes both the CR-V and four-cylinder RAV4 in terms of horsepower, and you'll feel it when you stomp on the accelerator. Toyota offers an optional V-6 for the RAV4, and the Outlander only comes with V-6 power. The Rogue's engine mates with a continuously variable automatic transmission, and the SUV is available with either front-wheel drive or front-biased all-wheel drive.

There has been much debate over the application of CVTs in various models among different automakers. Some work well, others don't. For the most part, it's been the teaming of a powerful engine with a CVT that has impressed me, like in the new Altima. Those that have failed are the economical, four-cylinder-powered cars, like the Nissan Sentra and Dodge Caliber. The Rogue falls somewhere between those two extremes.

The engine certainly has enough power to live up to the sporty image the company is aiming for, and under hard acceleration it comes to life with a healthy roar that's not the norm in a four-cylinder-powered cute-ute. Nissan has also added shift paddles and manual shifting to the CVT in the Rogue's SL trim. Because it doesn't have gears like a conventional automatic, a CVT never really "shifts," but the transmission's software can create the sensation of shifting, and the result is pretty impressive; it feels like a regular automatic transmission with a manual-shift feature.

When cresting hills, I felt the lack of power a few times that most drivers associate with a four-cylinder. Luckily, even when in Drive you can use the shift paddles to get a quick downshift, then let the car take over again; it will reset itself to Drive after a few seconds of continuous speed. I found this feature extremely beneficial and imagine it will be a favorite of commuters who are constantly stuck behind slow-moving traffic.

The Rogue also lived up to its sporty roots in the handling department. While the steering felt loose at low speeds, it really tightened up the faster I went. I was tuned into the turns on windy roads, and the feel of the wheel was dead-on. Road and wind noise was minimal, and the suspension provided a soft ride, which many "sporty" SUVs abandon for a firmer one. I don't understand why some manufacturers seem to think an SUV needs to feel like a sports car in the ride department, and after hitting a stretch of pothole-filled roads I was very glad Nissan feels the same way.

The Rogue had very little body lean for an SUV, but it's probably still not up to the level of the Outlander. Even so, the Rogue is probably the best all-around performer in the four-cylinder class.

Over roughly 200 miles of mixed highway and two-lane-road driving, averaging around 35 mph, the Rogue's trip computer told me it was getting 23.7 mpg, right between the 21/26 mpg (city/highway) EPA estimate for the all-wheel-drive model I was testing. Front-wheel-drive models get 22/27 mpg (city/highway). That's comparable with the rest of the class using new 2008 EPA testing guidelines. There is room for improvement, though, and a hybrid version of the Rogue could be a big seller. Unfortunately, there are no plans for one at this time.

Utility
As far as SUVs go, there isn't much that's mind-blowing about the Rogue's storage capabilities. The cargo area with the rear seats up is an unimpressive 28.9 cubic feet. On paper that's less than many in the class, but when you see it in person you can't really imagine needing much more. The low, sloping roof contributes to the smaller cargo capacity. The rear seats fold mostly flat with the pull of a knob next to each head restraint. It's a simple setup that I prefer to the cumbersome methods employed in the CR-V and Outlander. With the seats down, cargo expands to 57.9 cubic feet, but it would be nice if the extended floor was truly flat.

Besides that cumbersome glove box, there's a cubby in the center console with an insert for CDs and other junk we all live with in our cars. Two cupholders up front and two in back handle most drink sizes you can imagine, from 32-ounce fountain drinks to skinny water bottles. There's a purse hook on the back of the passenger seat; it's a nice thought, but only the skinniest of straps will fit on it. One of my wife's behemoth bags would be resigned to the rear floor. Similar hooks reside in the cargo area for grocery bags, which makes more sense.

Another nifty feature in the cargo area is a little divider that pops up from the carpeted floor. This is one of the most skilled, simple innovations I've seen in a small SUV. The hidden compartment has three dividers that can easily be removed, so a quick trip to the grocery store won't result in eggplants and onions rolling all over the place. I'd hazard a guess that you could get about 10 lightly packed plastic grocery bags in this pop-up cubby. Plus, it has a removable, washable plastic bottom.

Safety
Like many new 2008 vehicles, the Rogue comes loaded with a bevy of standard safety features. Electronic stability control, front seat active head restraints, antilock brakes and a tire pressure monitoring system are standard, along with side torso airbags in front and side curtain airbags for both rows of seats. Active head restraints for the front seats are also standard. As of publication, the Rogue has not been crash tested.

Value
Full pricing for the Rogue models had not been announced at the time of this writing. However, Nissan has confirmed the base trim level, the Rogue S with FWD, will start under $20,000. Usually when we hear that phrase it means the price will be $19,995. Even if it is indeed $19,995, the Rogue will come in slightly below the competition.

Rogue in the Market
Nissan has a winner on its hands. The only thing that may fail to totally turn people on is its middle-of-the-road exterior styling. Luckily for Nissan, none of the competition is considered a beauty, so it's entered a pretty level playing field. I still prefer the CR-V's transmission, but everything else about the Rogue screams "winner." For a manufacturer's first entry into a segment, the Rogue completely impresses.

[awing]

Narinig ko sa FM kanina, meron na daw Qashqai sa Nissan Showroom dito. Ma-check nga..