Mazda 2 vs. Honda Jazz/Fit

**eggman** · May 4th, 2007 05:57 PM

Dadalhin ng Mazda Philippines to dito this year at sourced from Thailand ang Mazda2..

**Blackraven** · May 6th, 2007 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by niky

Hey, the L-series is a pretty good engine... though whether it's better than Toyota's small engines is a matter of debate.

I'm not saying though that L-series is bad. In fact, it's one of Honda's best 4-banger engines aside from the R-series

(although the K-series was such a crappy engine series

).

I'm just observing the possibility if Honda can make an engine series that is BETTER THAN THE L-SERIES in all aspects. This would mean better FC, even-lower NVH, improved emission control & more HP and torque (even if slightly).

Same reason for me choosing an R20A over a K20A engine. I'd take the R20 anyday over the noisier and more fuel-guzzling predecessor.

That said, the decision of Honda to release a newer engine series (to succeed the L-series) or not will be a crucial factor (for me) if I should wait for the newer model of the Fit/Jazz or if would just buy the current model available now.

**niky** · May 6th, 2007 02:02 PM

The K-series is only crappy in terms of fuel economy. Kung sa power... ang ganda niya.

But I'm seriously impressed with the R18... if they can get even just 160 - 170 hp out of it, and it's cheaper and more economical than the K20... I wouldn't mind seeing it on top-of-the-line Civics. Of course, they'd have to develop a new head to put on it for Type-R versions.

I understand what you're saying, though... if they keep the L-engine for the next Jazz, there really isn't much reason to wait for it instead of buying the current one.

**alwayz_yummy** · May 6th, 2007 02:17 PM

may mazda2 na ba dito..

**Blackraven** · May 10th, 2007 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by niky

I understand what you're saying, though... if they keep the L-engine for the next Jazz, there really isn't much reason to wait for it instead of buying the current one.

Yup, that's what I meant when I said that.

If Honda won't release a newer engine series, what could Honda possibly do to convince me to buy the next-gen model over its predecessor (the "GD")???

SH-AWD on all models??? That would be excellent but it's only available in high-end Honda & Acura vehicles atm. Also, I don't think Honda may want to equip the tech on lower-end cars. Standard HID XENON headlamps via projector method (current model uses multi-reflector oens)??? Possibly.

Also, another thing that makes me attracted to the GD Fit/Jazz is that its 7-speed CVT auto has a 7-speed manual mode that is available in three modes: D-S-L. If remove the feature by only making it available in 'S' mode, then it doesn't feel like the new model would have a better tranny. I mean, why remove/water-down something that's already there?!?!?!?

Oh well, I guess I'll really have to see if the next-gen model would convince me not to choose its predecessor.

**lm723** · May 15th, 2007 01:44 PM

sana ilabas ung mazda2 dito, sana din wag mahal.

ung mazda5, i've heard ilalabas daw dito by mid aug 07 or 08 ata? pero not sure.

**king_solomon** · May 23rd, 2007 12:31 AM

depende nalang cguro kc yung jazz ok naman sya e roomy naman, madalas nakakarga ako ng mga stocks ko and for sunday family car din. unlike the yaris and swift or picanto. d pag ni fold mo na yung mga upuan d pa din kcing spacious ng jazz. sana sa bagong model ng jazz e ganun din or mas roomy pa. or kahit sa mazda 2.

sympre pag bibili kayo ng kotse dapat double purpose,
for pleasure and business para sulit