2017 Honda CR-V 1.6 V or 2017 Mitsubishi Montero Sport GLS

**db127** · August 27th, 2017 04:58 AM

Not sure on the 200K price difference on the GLS premium. You can still get discounts up to 100k+ from dealers + test drive promos.

**Walter** · August 27th, 2017 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by junjulaug

Overtaking tapos may blind curve? Tapos loaded vehicle, wag ka na mag drive sa labas, sa race track ka nalang, sinusugal mo pa buhay ng pasahero mo.

Overtaking uphill near the apex and blind curve ...

**Shutterbug** · August 27th, 2017 01:54 PM

When you say your heart still beats Montero... What specific criteria/aspect do you love about it. It will somehow help clear your decision better if you weigh in your criteria vs your actual needs. 😉

Originally Posted by lightsaberx

Salamat sa repsonse mga sirs. Halos lahat CRV, will wait for more inputs.

Got this feeling that this will be a tough decision to make. My head is telling me to get the CRV but my heart beats the Monty. haha.

I'm really planning this purchase carefully as I intend to keep the car for 10yrs minimum.

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**jut703** · August 27th, 2017 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by manilamako

Following this thread. Same scenario as you and same choices as well.

Dont mean to hijack the thread but this might be of relevance. The base diesel or the gas CRV? Does choosing the diesel unit for long term savings offset the additional safety features and creature comforts available in the gas variant? Still leaning towards the diesel kahit underequipped siya.

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Assume 7 km/L for the gas and 9 km/L for the diesel. Gas is at P45/L, diesel at P32/L. Average mileage of 15000 km per year.

15k / 7 km/L x 45 = 96k gas per year
15k / 9 km/L x 32 = 53k diesel per year

40k per year difference if you compare the Gas S vs Diesel S variants with the same equipment level, price difference is 200k so you'll make up the difference in 5 years.

Now if you don't mind the features of the S variant, then basically you save 40k per year on the V diesel vs S gas.

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**manilamako** · August 27th, 2017 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by jut703

Assume 7 km/L for the gas and 9 km/L for the diesel. Gas is at P45/L, diesel at P32/L. Average mileage of 15000 km per year.

15k / 7 km/L x 45 = 96k gas per year
15k / 9 km/L x 32 = 53k diesel per year

40k per year difference if you compare the Gas S vs Diesel S variants with the same equipment level, price difference is 200k so you'll make up the difference in 5 years.

Now if you don't mind the features of the S variant, then basically you save 40k per year on the V diesel vs S gas.

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Awesome Jut! Thanks for the breakdown! Since this would be replacing our second car, i dont think we'll be saving that much per year. Our daily driver logged roughly 10k this past year so the CRV would probably do a lot less. Mukang okay din pala kunin yun Gas variant. And PMS should be cheaper too. Any other downsides?

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**igiwtf** · August 27th, 2017 05:07 PM

i vote for Montero Gls

**StockEngine** · August 27th, 2017 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by jut703

Assume 7 km/L for the gas and 9 km/L for the diesel. Gas is at P45/L, diesel at P32/L. Average mileage of 15000 km per year.

15k / 7 km/L x 45 = 96k gas per year
15k / 9 km/L x 32 = 53k diesel per year

40k per year difference if you compare the Gas S vs Diesel S variants with the same equipment level, price difference is 200k so you'll make up the difference in 5 years.

Now if you don't mind the features of the S variant, then basically you save 40k per year on the V diesel vs S gas.

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I still think the crv-d will do double digits even at the worst edsa speeds... 10-13kml

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**Mguy** · August 27th, 2017 06:25 PM

I'm practical. If you are looking for a new daily drive driving around the metro and going to malls etc, then go for the CRV. If you live in the province and go off road most of the time, go Monty.

**jut703** · August 27th, 2017 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by manilamako

Awesome Jut! Thanks for the breakdown! Since this would be replacing our second car, i dont think we'll be saving that much per year. Our daily driver logged roughly 10k this past year so the CRV would probably do a lot less. Mukang okay din pala kunin yun Gas variant. And PMS should be cheaper too. Any other downsides?

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Aside from the fuel savings, the only other thing you give up is the low-end torque. Even on a full load, diesel engines don't feel labored when driving at city speeds. The lower horsepower is felt only past triple digit speeds.

That said, the gas engine is actually adequate for the CRV. I've driven the outgoing generation quite a lot and it's certainly not underpowered.

Over the long term, you also give up resale value since the diesel will retain its value longer for sure. Of course, after a decade, the difference will not be that significant.

If you won't be racking up high mileage with the car, the gas version is actually a pretty good deal. Comfortable car, lots of features, lots of space. Thing is, the Forester i-Premium also offers the same good package in a prettier car (if you ask me).

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**lightsaberx** · August 27th, 2017 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by Shutterbug

When you say your heart still beats Montero... What specific criteria/aspect do you love about it. It will somehow help clear your decision better if you weigh in your criteria vs your actual needs. 😉

Okay, I can call myself confused at this point until after I have test driven the CRV. It's really hard to compare If you only have tested 1 out of the 2.

Based on my initial post, I have provided several factors why I am considering both cars. I will break down those considerations in able to provide further information as to "why".

I live outside the metro and is working in Ortigas. The road conditions are not 100% good all thoughout the year, the road breaks mostly during rainy season since large trucks traverses it after truck ban loaded with soil/rocks, precasted concrete, cement and others. Had several previous instances that soil and rocks from these trucks are spilled over the road and it skid under the car due to low clearance. But hey, the City conquered it, good thing no major under damage. There are also minimal floodings along the way when it rains real hard, therefore, 1 major criteria would be high ground clearance. But, I need to consider also the senior people riding it during out of town trips.

In paper, the CRV has 198mm vs 218mm for the Monty. Is 20mm that huge of a difference? In person, it looks like the Monty is much higher than 20mm. A comment here says that entering the monty is hard, with the 20mm diff which is not very significant, can we also say that it will be hard to enter the CRV? This I have yet to try.

Another major consideration is the engine power. The farthest I have driven the City is up to Baguio with 4 persons and several luggages. The 1.5L did okay but you can already feel the stress on the engine going up. I would want the car to be able to go further. I plan and dream to drive around with it as far as Ilocos, up Sagada, down Naga and Legazpi and maybe even roro to Mindoro, Samar and Leyte with maybe 5+ passengers.

120hp/300 torque of the CRV vs 181hp/430 torque of the Monty. With engines, the higher the better?

The minor considerations, there's the added feature of the Montero (Push button start, dual climate control, leather steering, better multimedia 6.75" 6speaker, 18" wheel) vs the security features of the CRV (hill start assist, stability control, leather seats, LED drl, tail lamp).

Then there's the price. Montero costing lower of about 139K vs the CRV after discounts.

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