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    Quote Originally Posted by the_wildthing View Post
    Ako Audi naman para maiba.

    Kahit 1.8T na luma basta quattro. Ayaw ko nung Front-Trak. Teka di ba 170hp yung last na lumabas na 1.8T bago naging 2.0T?
    The A4's 1.8T produces 163PS and its still in production as a lower model to the 200PS 2.0 TFSI (Turbo).
    Some countries like the US upgraded their A4 lineup by dropping the lower end 1.8T models in favor of the stronger 200PS 2.0 TFSI.
    Last edited by AG4; August 16th, 2006 at 03:26 AM.

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    I'm quite skeptic about the 320i's modest power at only 150 bhp. From a class-leader in engine technology, I certainly expected much more than that output. For one thing, the 320d makes 163 bhp, thus translating to better performance and of course, fuel economy. Unfortunately though, the diesel isn't available here yet.

    As for the Audi, I'm definitely not paying 3M for this. Heck, you can buy 2 Mazda 6s with this price. It looks very nice like the quad-circle German, has just about the same power and more space being the bigger car. Reliability should also be better. If you have 3M and want pure performance, buy an Evo or WRX.

    Going back to the Bimmer, I still find 2.85M too pricey even for a car that's very fun to drive. The 320i, again with anonymous power, won't outrun an SiR or any current midsize 4-cylinder Jap car. It may have more space than its predecessors, but it still won't be comfortable seating 3 at the back even in short trips. I also doubt if there are cupholders in this model. So even if it's a BMW, it's still not the best thing your money can buy. If it were the 330i at the same price, now BMW is talking!

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    Well, the point of the base Bimmers and Audis is not to be fastest in class.

    Definitely not best value, compared to some of the terrific Japanese / American cars coming out now (Accord, Camry, Focus, Mazda6, etcetera), but they're still exclusive.

    RE: Audi or Bimmer? Both have their electrical gremlin issues. I'm wondering about the tractability of Audi's hot turbos in our weather, also... I've seen at least one 1.8T overheat here... but it could be because the guy upped his boost too far...

    Thus, for reliability, not much to choose from, but BMW's has supposedly been getting better as of late. Their most problematic cars now are the Minis, actually.

    My choice? A Ford Focus 2.0. :lol: Feels quite European.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    e90 na rin ako

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    sirs, ano po yung fuel economy ng BMW 320i? Yung fuel mileage ba sa brochures is for real?

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Well, the point of the base Bimmers and Audis is not to be fastest in class.

    Definitely not best value, compared to some of the terrific Japanese / American cars coming out now (Accord, Camry, Focus, Mazda6, etcetera), but they're still exclusive.
    Honestly, I don't exactly know how Audis became exclusive. Is it simply because it's of the same nationality as BMW and Mercedes? Well, there's Opel and Volkswagen, and I think it's better slotted there. Apart from great looks inside and out, there's not much else to expect in an Audi. They're not as fun as BMWs nor as comfortable as Benzes. I think they should work on something that can finally make their handsome cars really stand out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto
    sirs, ano po yung fuel economy ng BMW 320i? Yung fuel mileage ba sa brochures is for real?
    The figures in the brochure came from tests done in Europe, with much better gasoline and without utter traffic. Expect actual fuel numbers to be less in this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squala View Post
    . I think they should work on something that can finally make their handsome cars really stand out.
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    Quatro. Especially on snow belt area."NEVER FOLLOW" from audi slogan.

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    Bimmer and Audis are waaaaaaaaaaay toooo overpriced in the philippines.For $7,000 you can buy a 98' audi 1.8t quatro here(US).$12k for 2000 bmw 323i.

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    IMO, id be losing way too much resale if id pick the Audi locally. if i were in the shoes of the one who's gonna buy, id get myself a Volvo S40 and Mazda6or a Civic 2.0S. ;)


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    Quote Originally Posted by ronald_m View Post
    Quattro. Especially on snow belt area."NEVER FOLLOW" from audi slogan.
    So what's with Audi's 4WD? There's also Subaru's AWD for one thing. Anyway, what can Quattro do that other 4WD systems can't?
    Last edited by squala; August 17th, 2006 at 03:15 AM.

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