250k budget - Used car options, am I right in choosing these models?

**tjeco** · May 23rd, 2018 09:06 AM

About to pull the trigger for a used car financing, and in my search I found these cars, am I right in choosing these models? And what is the most bang for buck in my choices?
Would it be the Hyundai since it's the newest or will it be the Vios/Honda because of the abundance of parts?

Plus, first car lang naman kaya a used car will do.

Also, any tips and pano yung general process if sa personal/private seller ako bibili then ipapa finance sa financing company? Makakapag down naman ako ng 100k.

1. 2006 Honda City
2. 2006 Toyota Vios
3. 2011-2014 Hyundai i10
4. 2012-2014 Hyundai Eon

Thank you TSIKOT!

**Egan101** · May 23rd, 2018 09:19 AM

I'd stay away from a City IDSI (2003-2008) unless it is the VTEC model. The IDSI models came with a CVT tranny that becomes a big problem if not maintained properly. How about looking for a 2004-2005 Civic ES instead? It is a better car than the City IDSI.

If buying used, go for cash basis. If not, maybe you can use that 100k and buy a new small car instead.

**tjeco** · May 23rd, 2018 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by Egan101

I'd stay away from a City IDSI (2003-2008) unless it is the VTEC model. The IDSI models came with a CVT tranny that becomes a big problem if not maintained properly. How about looking for a 2004-2005 Civic ES instead? It is a better car than the City IDSI.

If buying used, go for cash basis. If not, maybe you can use that 100k and buy a new small car instead.

Thanks for the Honda City tip bruv, yep nabasa ko nga na may mga problems daw sa CVT and better kung Automatic lang talaga. Kaya naman mag new car if monthly finance pero antagal kasi yung 15k a month for 5 years.

**dr. d** · May 23rd, 2018 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by tjeco

About to pull the trigger for a used car financing, and in my search I found these cars, am I right in choosing these models? And what is the most bang for buck in my choices?
Would it be the Hyundai since it's the newest or will it be the Vios/Honda because of the abundance of parts?

Plus, first car lang naman kaya a used car will do.

Also, any tips and pano yung general process if sa personal/private seller ako bibili then ipapa finance sa financing company? Makakapag down naman ako ng 100k.

1. 2006 Honda City
2. 2006 Toyota Vios
3. 2011-2014 Hyundai i10
4. 2012-2014 Hyundai Eon

Thank you TSIKOT!

if you do considerable highway driving, i'd recommend pass up the i10 and eon. although frugal on gas, my (wigo) mini car is not so comfortable in the expressway. they're city cars.

and yes, the idsi city with cvt did have transmission issues. MT is fine, i assume.

the vios appears to be the bukambibig recommendation to me.

**Egan101** · May 23rd, 2018 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by tjeco

Thanks for the Honda City tip bruv, yep nabasa ko nga na may mga problems daw sa CVT and better kung Automatic lang talaga. Kaya naman mag new car if monthly finance pero antagal kasi yung 15k a month for 5 years.

Well, you can shorten a loan to 3 years instead of 5 years. Just check with your preferred bank for the terms.

It is better to buy new if you have the means. Warranty becomes your friend in case something goes wrong. If buying used, be sure that you need not worry about monthly payments.

**GTi** · May 23rd, 2018 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by Egan101

I'd stay away from a City IDSI (2003-2008) unless it is the VTEC model. The IDSI models came with a CVT tranny that becomes a big problem if not maintained properly. How about looking for a 2004-2005 Civic ES instead? It is a better car than the City IDSI.

If buying used, go for cash basis. If not, maybe you can use that 100k and buy a new small car instead.

Do the VTEC models not have CVT? I was under the impression that they had the same tranny.

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**Egan101** · May 23rd, 2018 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by GTi

Do the VTEC models not have CVT? I was under the impression that they had the same tranny.

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I think the VTEC models came with a MT tranny only but I am not sure. The VTEC offered better power as the 1.3L IDSI engine was geared more for city driving fuel efficiency.

**jut703** · May 23rd, 2018 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by Egan101

I think the VTEC models came with a MT tranny only but I am not sure. The VTEC offered better power as the 1.3L IDSI engine was geared more for city driving fuel efficiency.

I had an ipis City 1.5 VTEC CVT for a time. Same L15 as the newer Cities, just not iVTEC. It had a CVT with virtual gears via buttons (not paddle shifters).

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**dr. d** · May 23rd, 2018 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by jut703

I had an ipis City 1.5 VTEC CVT for a time. Same L15 as the newer Cities, just not iVTEC. It had a CVT with virtual gears via buttons (not paddle shifters).

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what are your thoughts on that cvt issue?
is it design defect, maintenance issue, or random bad luck?

**jut703** · May 23rd, 2018 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by dr. d

what are your thoughts on that cvt issue?
is it design defect, maintenance issue, or random bad luck?

CVT just wasn't mature enough at the time. It was prone to breaking down early especially when subjected to extreme driving conditions like the high heat + high traffic combo we have in Manila.

Many people also didn't understand how critical CVT fluid changes are, especially those who came from low-maintenance manuals.

It's pretty similar to the DCT of Ford in the Fiesta and Focus which also had a lot of premature failures.

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