Changing ATF Fluid completely (DIALYSIS PROCESS)

**baludoy** · July 5th, 2014 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by Ry_Tower

Hehe, double flush ba gagawin mo?

Kung baba at oil pan, siguro no need na, pero kung hindi, maganda nga din yang plano mo.

anong double flush bos?

siguro baba ko lang iyong oil pan kapag palit na ng tranny filter (have to check exactly when i should do this). matrabaho iyong pag-palit tranny filter ng monty although compared to the fd, mas madali siya ng di hamak :seeth:

**Ry_Tower** · July 5th, 2014 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by baludoy

anong double flush bos?

siguro baba ko lang iyong oil pan kapag palit na ng tranny filter (have to check exactly when i should do this). matrabaho iyong pag-palit tranny filter kasi sa monty although compared to the fd, mas madali siya ng di hamak :seeth:

Sa manual dialysis kasi yun yung sinasabi ko. Puwede twice gawin para linis na linis talaga. Pero kung machine baka hindi na nga need. Just more AT oil for cleaning.

Ma-trabaho nga sa SUV ang palit tranny filter. hehe

**baludoy** · July 5th, 2014 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by Ry_Tower

Sa manual dialysis kasi yun yung sinasabi ko. Puwede twice gawin para linis na linis talaga. Pero kung machine baka hindi na nga need. Just more AT oil for cleaning.

Ma-trabaho nga sa SUV ang palit tranny filter. hehe

actually bos masmadali iyong sa monty kesa sa fd. iyong fd kailangan baba talaga tranny para mapalitan iyong filter

Originally Posted by hachooro

Ilan liters naman po ang magagamit if hindi mag pa dialysis? Montero 4x2 non vgt at.

sa gls-v namin ang recommend ko at least 15 liters bos. so i think same lang din

**greenlyt** · July 12th, 2014 12:44 PM

Had mine drain, dialysis process last year, ngayon probably later part of the year, papalit ko yun filter

**red_one** · July 24th, 2014 02:37 PM

Should I Have My Transmission Flushed

AGCO Automotive Repair Service - Baton Rouge, LA - Detailed Auto Topics - Should I Have My Transmission Flushed

Automatic transmissions benefit from proper service. Unfortunately, many places push a highly profitable up-sell instead. The transmission flush does the vehicle little good and may cause harm.

With a proper transmission service, the vehicle is first test-driven. Next the transmission is inspected for leaks and external problems. Most transmissions have a removable pan and filter. On these units, the fluid is drained. The pan is removed, and the filter is replaced. Next the valve-body bolt torque is checked, and the transmission is reassembled, filled with the proper fluid and again test-driven.

Flushing a transmission is simply a matter of removing the cooler lines with the engine running. Fluid runs out and more is added. When a set amount has been added, the lines are reinstalled. No inspection of internal components are undertaken and what is more important; the filter is not addressed.

Transmission flushing is very popular because it is very profitable.

A low-skilled technician can hook up the flush machine and do something else, while the transmission is being flushed. No inventory of filters or pan gaskets are necessary, and a universal fluid may be used, instead of the vehicle specific fluid.

Transmission failure is many times caused by slippage. Slippage is often caused by low pressure, such as from a restricted filter. The transmission flush does not replace the filter and may stir up debris that further restricts it. Transmission fluid causes very few problems, unless improper fluid is used.

Fluid-color is often used to sell a transmission flush. This is very misleading, as fluid color does not show the fluid condition. Transmission fluid varies widely in color, even when new. Darkening of the fluid over time is perfectly normal.

Transmission fluid color is NOT an indication of a need for service.

The exception would be transmission fluid that is black and burned. This shows a problem has already occurred within the transmission. With burnt fluid, it is too late for a service and repair will be needed.

Proponents of transmission flushing often claim 100% of the fluid is replaced

This is untrue for several reasons. When the engine is running and the transmission is in park, only a part of the fluid is circulated. A good deal of fluid simply flows from the pump back to the pan, through the pressure relief valve. Several components in the pressure circuit do not receive flow at all.

The flush adds new fluid to a circulating volume of old fluid

When continually diluting old fluid by adding fresh fluid, a good deal of the new fluid is also removed. This unused fluid goes into the waste along with the portion of old fluid removed. Perhaps up to 50% of the fluid flushed through the transmission may go to waste. also removed. This unused fluid goes into the waste along with the portion of old fluid removed. Perhaps up to 50% of the fluid flushed through the transmission may go to waste.

Transmission flushing will NOT clean the transmission

The transmission pump circulates fluid during the flush. This is no different from the normal pump operation. Any debris in the pan or transmission case would have to pass through the transmission filter to reach the pump. If this were possible, the filter would become even more restricted.

GM states their transmissions are NOT to be flushed

In the technical service bulletin 04-06-01-029E, GM warns dealerships against several flushing procedures. In regard to transmissions, GM has issued the following statement:

"The use of external transmission fluid exchange or flush machines is NOT recommended for the automatic or manual transmission. Use of external machines to replace the fluid may affect the operation or durability of the transmission. Transmission fluid should only be replaced by draining and refilling following directions in SI. Refer to Automatic/Manual Transmission Fluid and Filter Replacement."

**miko101130** · July 24th, 2014 04:45 PM

ahaha... kaya pala GM nag publish...
malamang hindi malilinis transmission, eh ATF lang naman ang pinapalitan.
kung gusto malinis transmission itself kailangan buksan mo yun. at linisin from the inside.

ayaw nila palitan ng consumer ang atf fluid so that after the warranty expires papunta ka na sa transmission failure...
transmission fluid is also a hydraulic fluid therefore it must be replaced because it gets depleted and oxidized.

self serving bulletin from GM.

**lowslowbenz** · July 24th, 2014 05:39 PM

This Toyota declaration na lubed for life yung mga auto tranny nila is pure BS.

**dr. d** · July 24th, 2014 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by lowslowbenz

This Toyota declaration na lubed for life yung mga auto tranny nila is pure BS.

I think what they really mean is, once it needs lubbing, its life is over..

**red_one** · July 24th, 2014 06:03 PM

^the web article was written by AGCO Automotive Repair Service. see link above. the service bulletin from GM was just part of the article.

wala sinabi ang GM na wag magpalit ng ATF. ang sabi ni GM wag gumamit ng external transmission fluid exchange or flush machines or what we call "Dialysis process". replace ATF daw by draining and refilling, following procedure in their SI "Automatic/Manual Transmission Fluid and Filter Replacement".