Parking in front of the house

[mini cooperS]

Dapat kasi,- ang dami ng sasakyan,- segun sa laki ng garahe mo.....

Ang mga kapitbahay namin,- pang-dalawahan lang ang garahe,- pero ang sasakyan 5. Tapos, iyong isang slot sa garahe,- gagawing tambakan, kaya isa lang ang nakagarahe,- iyong apat, puro nasa kalye...

Hindi ako guilty dito, ano!.....
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If the compound or the barangay allows parking along the roadside (unless your in marikina) the barangay or the city government should set rules and guidelines or even posts signs where to park and not to park. For driveways, it should be cleared about 2 meters away from the width of the driveway or garage entrance to allow for manuevering.
Mas maigi to regulate the ownership of cars. Meaning, if you do not have a parking slot for your new car, you are not entitled to a new car. That is true in Tokyo and Hongkong and in Singapore. In return, the government should provide safe public mass transport system to move people around the urban areas (jeeps, pedicabs and tricycles not included).

[frake]

hindi ko alam sa ibang subdivisions pero sa'min, may dagdag na bayad sa amilyar dahil sa sukat ng tapat mong kalye. Like sa mga nakatira sa main road sa amin, mas malaki ng konte ang amilyar nila compare sa mga nasa sub-streets. meaning binabayaran namin yung side ng kalye na nakatapat sa bahay namin. pero hindi ibig sabihin kami may ari ng kalye.

now para sa'kin, kung ganyan ang sitwasyon, siguro naman mas may karapatan akong parking-an yung tapat ng bahay namin. pero kung darating ang panahon na dadami na ang may sasakyan sa kalye namin, willing ako mag give way at mag park somewhere basta safe. mas mura kasi maglakad ng konte kesa magpagawa ng gasgas or basag na salamin...

[bulalo]

Just registered to post something on this thread, couldn't resist kasi. Pasensya na kung binubuhay ko itong thread.

Mainit din ang dugo ko sa issue na ito e sa totoo lang. Simpleng problema, mahirap solusyunan ng tama. Perwisyo yang mga walang konsiderasyon.

I fully understand that no one owns the streets since these are in the public domain. I will not pretend to know all the laws or ordinances regarding parking of vehicles. However, I do know for a fact that there is a law regarding private driveways under Section 46. Parking prohibited in specified places of RA 4136, letter (f) which states "No driver shall park a vehicle, or permit it to stand, whether attended or unattended, upon a highway in any of the following places: (a), (b)..... (f) in front of a private driveway". Of course one could argue that the term used was "highway" so it might not be applicable but IMHO, there shouldn't be any debate if a certain car is parked in front of your house's driveway(unless the car in question is yours hehe).

In our area, besides parking in front of the driveway, there are other ways parking can affect you. One is a car parked across your house on a street that is narrow but still in line with your driveway. The result would be having a hard time going in or out. Another one would be parking not on the driveway but at the "wall side" of the house's front. Diba karamihan mga bahay kalahati gate kalahati dingding? They park at the wall side. Pretty harmless but there are a lot of times when you need the whole part of your houses' front to park your car or even your visitor's. Worst part is, you find out the front of their house(the owner of the car) is practically empty. Even the garage! Pambihira naman diba? Tapos totoo din yung sinabi ng isa dito, yung nagpark na nga, magkakalat pa ng basura. Sino maglilinis?

There are even other implications of this problem. One even posted here that you don't know what's contained in their car. It's true because whatever is in there might affect you in a lot of ways. Paano kung may bangkay sa trunk ng sasakyan, paghinalaan ka pa ng pulis. Eh alam naman natin hindi naman marunong mag imbestiga ang mga yan. Iimbitahin ka sa presinto para tanungin. Hassle diba? Eh paano kung taxi yan tapos may leak yung LPG tank at sumabog? Eh di damay pa bahay mo. Paano naman kung may kaaway yung may-ari ng sasakyan at niratrat ng bala, damay din bahay mo. Paano kung tinamaan ka at napuruhan? There are so many plausible things that could happen.

Personally, even with the absence of a law which protects the house of the owner from preventing others to park in front of it- common sense, logic and respect will dictate the right course of action. Sakin kasi, wala talagang valid reason akong nakikita at wala silang respeto bilang kapitbahay mo kapag ginagawa nila yun. The very reason why we have laws that state what is covered by our private property, is simply to have order. We don't encroach on other people's place and privacy. I believe it should be the same with how people treat their neighbors' houses' front side. Feeling kasi ng marami dahil lamang public, pwede na natin gawin ang gusto natin. Park dito park diyan, tapos pag aalis na eh magiiwan pa ng basura. Tama ba naman yun?

Here are the things I've learned with this issue
1. People generally don't care about you. They only care about their own convenience.
2. Don't expect people to be like you. It would only disappoint you.
3. Communication is only effective if both parties understand each other. If one refuses to do so, that's where the problem begins. Swerte mo kung mabait ang kapitbahay mo at madaling kausap.
4. Talking is good but you have to say your piece at most 2 or 3 times and that's it. There's no use of reminding people over and over again.
5. No one will assert the things you believe is right except yourself. Walang mangyayari sa problema na yan kung wala kang gagawing aksyon. Ang barangay? Naku asa pa.
6. Don't turn a blind eye on a problem in its initial stages. Hangga't maaga, gawan niyo na yan ng paraan. Because once these people get comfortable doing it, it would be much harder to think of the right solution. Mamimihasa ang mga yan.
7. It's so true that it's not worth it to argue or make an enemy out of your neighbor. Mamromroblema lang kayo lalo. That's why you have to find ways to get what you want and still have some peace in your community at the same time.
8. Your "good" neighbor won't do anything as unless he/she gets punished or be threatened of being penalized.

Alam niyo, yung mga suggestion na gasgasan or basta gantihan yung sasakyan nila, I fully understand you guys and I will not blame anyone who will do so. Ayaw man natin gawin dahil hindi tama pero minsan alam ninyo kailangan. It's really not worth it to have your neighbor as your enemy. Sayang ang oras at pagod ninyo, minsan wala pa piece of mind. Kaya kung patago niyo gagawin ang mga igaganti ninyo, gawin niyo na ng mas maaga. Lalo na kapag hindi pa kayo naguusap tungkol sa issue, nakipagaway or nagreklamo. Sigurado ako mas matatauhan ang mga yan sa ganyang paraan.

Pasensya na sa mahabang posts ko. Nakakainis at nakakalungkot lang isipin na nangyayari itong ganito. Sa amin yung iba kong kapitbahay ayaw madamay sa ganyan dahil ayaw daw ng gulo. Noong nakita ko wala palang panindigan ang iba, lumipat nalang kami at binenta ang bahay. It's convenient for us pero paanu naman sa mga hindi kayang bumili ng ibang property at lumipat? Isa din pala yun, you have to know which of your neighbors agree with your position. Having the numbers will surely help especially in filing a complaint.

[bulalo]

edited: nahirapan ako hanapin kung bakit ayaw magpost, binalik ko nalang sa first post ko yung huling part

[jkill]

Ganinto rin yung case namin here sa Neptune St. Congressional at the back of Circle C mall. Sa condo kasi kami nakatira if familiar kayo dun sa lugar near San Nicolas Church. yesterday nakasagutan ko yung guard ng Simbahan kasi wala akong mpag parkan sa tapat ng Condo since mabilis lang ako nag decide ako magpark doon sa tapat ng church kahit alam kong madamot sila. dahil bakante naman sa tapat ng church doon ako nagpark pero hindi ko naman bnoblock yung driveway (take note yung neptune street marami ring nagpapark sa isang lane pero itong San Nicolas Church for some reason naglalagay ng karatula na no parking sign everytime na walang Mass pag may mass sila inaakyat yung mga karatula sa side walk maski sa gabi na walang misa ayaw nila magpapark). So pagkapark ko ito ang sinabi sakin ng guard

Guard: Hoy alisin mo yan jan!
Ako: Sir makikipark lang ako sandali may kukuhanin lang ako sa taas.
Guard: hindi to parking ng condo dun ka magpark sa tapat ng condo
Ako: sandali lang ho ako may kukuhanin lang
Guard: walang mapagpaparkan yung mga Parishioners namin
Ako: wala pa namang magpapark sir e. (1230pm palang nito 4 pm pa start ng misa)
Guard: aantayin mo pang may mag park?!! dun ka magpark sa tapat ng condo
Ako: Sir wala kasing bakante dun kaya dito ko muna pinark
Guard: Problema nyo na yan hindi ko problema yan

This time hindi nako nakapagtimpi sinagot ko na. Sabi ko bakit ba ayaw nyong ipagamit yung kalsada?! wala namang gagamit pa hindi rin naman ito sa inyo Government may ari nyan kaya kahit sino ppwedeng mag park, I patow mo yung sasakyan ko kung gusto mo. tapos iniwan ko na yung guard pagbalik ko after 15 mins wala namang gas gas. Kung hindi naman nakakaabala bakit hindi nalang ipagamit sa iba diba I know may mali din yung may mga sasakyan na walang parking. But what can we do mag ppublic transpo na unsafe? siksikan na mahabang pila. So now nagiisip na kaming iparent nalang yung unit at humanap ng HnL na may garage hindi naman din kasi sa ayaw naming kumuha ng parking slot kaya lang nung time na nagbebenta 5 years ago hindi pa namin kayang bumili ngayon namang may pambili ayaw na ibenta, kung mag rerent naman uncertain din pag kailangan na ng may ari yung slot alis ka nadin agad

[Ponkan]

meron pa dyan mga magkapitbahay kampihan, kahit mali na bestfriend neighbor nila kakampihan pa din, kakapal ng mukha, ako pa nasabihang maarte sa sasakyan eh sa totoo lang mahirap ilabas un sasakyan ko dahil nakahambala un sasakyan nila sa daanan at tatamaan pag umatras ako..umangal ka sa homeowners association mismo president nakahambala sasakyan nya sa daan sympre kanino kakampi un, life nga naman

[autumn_moon]

Just registered to post something on this thread, couldn't resist kasi. Pasensya na kung binubuhay ko itong thread.

I fully understand that no one owns the streets since these are in the public domain. I will not pretend to know all the laws or ordinances regarding parking of vehicles. However, I do know for a fact that there is a law regarding private driveways under Section 46. Parking prohibited in specified places of RA 4136, letter (f) which states "No driver shall park a vehicle, or permit it to stand, whether attended or unattended, upon a highway in any of the following places: (a), (b)..... (f) in front of a private driveway". Of course one could argue that the term used was "highway" so it might not be applicable but IMHO, there shouldn't be any debate if a certain car is parked in front of your house's driveway(unless the car in question is yours hehe).

You got it, right, bulalo! Looked it up, and "highways" as defined under Art II, Section 3(j) of RA 4136 are:

(j) "Highways" shall mean every public thoroughfare, public boulevard, driveway, avenue, park, alley and callejon, but shall not include roadway upon grounds owned by private persons, colleges, universities, or other similar institutions.

So all public streets are "highways" and it is against the law to park on a public street in front of a private driveway (whether attended or unattended). It means legally puwede pa-tow kasi illegally parked?

I have experienced being unable to go in or out the gate because the vehicle parked in front of my driveway would not start (na-stall, namatayan ng baterya, etc). Kahit sabihin nilang "sandali lang" or "tawagin lang at lilipat ang kotse" na-lalate ako sa klase and meetings kasi ang tagal lumabas or naliligo, or kung saan pumunta sandali...."

Wala talagang konsiderasyon, tawagin ka pang madamot.

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[Sheeni Lozep]

Hello,
Pasensya na po at binubuhay ko tong thread na to. Gusto ko lang po mainform sa situation namin.
Kagabi lang po kasi e medyo naharass kami, at I'm very worried na atakihin sa puso ang tatay ko sa nangyayare. We'll be facing off sa barangay later.

Nakatira po kami sa residential area, and ang bahay po namin, opo walang garage. I know lapse po sa side namin yun, pero residential naman po kasi at wala naman din po kasi sa pangarap namin non na magkakotse so walang provisional garage yung bahay namin. So sa tapat po kami nagpapark. Corner lot po kami, and ang common rule na nasa isip namin, one side only sa subdivision ang parking, so sa adjacent part ng street kami nagpapark. Altho tapat namin yung mismong apartment (yellow) ayaw po ng may ari na nagpapark kami doon. para daw po sa tenants nya yun. Edi ok umurong po kami dun sa mas mabaet na neighbor, hindi po kami nagbblock ng driveway.

Kaso kagabi meron pong bisita yung isa pang neighbor, dun po sya sa nagpark sa pinaparkingan namin. Syempre di namin paaalisin kasi di naman amin yung road. So dito po kami nagpark



Sumugod samen kagabi yung may-ari at pinagsisigawan yung tatay ko. Nagpatawag pa ng Brgy. Captain. Altho yung captain neutral, gusto ko lang po malaman kung wala po ba kaming rights na magreklamo din? Kasi in the first place, iisa lang sa tenants nya yung may sasakyan. Temporary namin pinark yung kotse doon hanggang di naalis yung sasakyan sa pinaparkingan namin. Wala naman kaming binablock sa pwestong yan. Ang gusto ko lang po malaman, since sa rule na sa alam namin tama *one side parking only* at dahil di naman kami direkta makapark sa tapat mismo ng side ng bahay namin dahil corner lot kami at bweltahan kami ng mga sasakyan, wala po ba talaga kaming rights magpark sa tapat ng apartment nila (not blocking driveway)?

Gusto ko lang po malinawan.

[yebo]

Meron. Whoever comes first dapat pwede mag park. Walang karapatan yung kapitbahay nyo paalisin kayo lalo na sa subdivision nyo e 1 side parking only. So oag nagharap na kayo sa barangay e humingi kayo ng sulat sa barangay para isalpak mo sa mukha ng kapitbahay nyo tuwing magtatatalak siya.

[machine.pistol]

Any part of that that street is common area. Ideally, your homeowners association should have a set of rules on how common areas should be used and enjoyed by residents. If none, it's free for all. So your neighbor cannot claim exclusive use over that portion of that street.