NAIA expressway

[lowslowbenz]

OT:

If there's (still) no rail connection between Manila and Clark, NAIA stays. If they can de-clog NAIA with small aircraft traffic and those flying schools, then I think commercial jet aircraft congestion may ease up a bit. One reason CAVITEX was built is in order to service air traffic that will be displaced in NAIA, make land travel from Sangley to elsewhere more faster.

But in the long term, NAIA will still be congested. Only a matter of time.

[JohnM]

Yep without Northrail Clark will just be a private airfield for the gamblers that frequent Fontana

[lowslowbenz]

Oh ... come to think of it, the national government has two big projects to finish before NAIA gets transferred.

1. Northrail
2. Developing that ramshackle of an airport (now) called Clark International Airport, to world class standards.

[timrev]

pardon the language. pero parang bobo talaga govt planner natin.

una, ang airport pinagpipilitan pa din na nasa city. kahit na walng airport, ma-trapik. so lagyan mo pa ng airport eh lalo na. tapos gumawa pa ng additional terminal imbes na mag-explore ng ibang option outside of MM para iwas trapik.

pangalawa, bakit kalsada na naman? hindi ba pwede i-extend na lang ang MRT puntang airport? Bukod sa bawas sasakyan, may ibang commuters din na pwedeng makinabang. yung mga bababa sa mga stations along the way.

parang too much ata na sabihin bobo ang planer ng govt...sa totoo lang ang gaganda ng mga project nila ngayon kaya nga gawa nalang ng more ways (elevated skyway) kasi di nila kayang luwagan na ang daan sa metro manila

trillion+ ang gagastusin pag tinangal ang naia dito sa manila so malabo talaga yun
pero ang pwede dila i-upgrade airport yun sangley airbase or plaridel aiport sa bulacan

my plano daw na gawan ng monorail link ng T1.T2,T3
kahit matagal wait lang natin gawin yun northrail manila-angeles, LRT 1 baclaran-bacoor extension, mrt7 to sjdm anu pa ba + TPLEX

[MonteroGLSV]

tama ka sir tim, daming mga project na ongoing and naka line-up pa, kaya lang minsan hindi ma implement ng maayos dahil may mga kababayan tayong inuuna muna nila kung saan sila makaka kobra although madami din nmn matitino na sangay ng gov.

[timrev]

Firms invited to pre-qualify for NAIA Expressway project

Firms invited to pre-qualify for NAIA Expressway project | ABS-CBN News

[fourtheboys96]

parang too much ata na sabihin bobo ang planer ng govt...sa totoo lang ang gaganda ng mga project nila ngayon kaya nga gawa nalang ng more ways (elevated skyway) kasi di nila kayang luwagan na ang daan sa metro manila

yun na nga ang point ko. bakit kalsada pa din ang ginagawa nila? kahit pa elevated yan, ibig sabihin niyan madami pa din sasakyan sa kalsada. at pag nagsabaysabay yan ng pag-dating airport, trapik pa din. hindi na natin kelangan pa tumingin sa malayo. anjan ang Japan at Singapore kung saan tren and ginagamit. less cars on the road, less potential for congestion.

trillion+ ang gagastusin pag tinangal ang naia dito sa manila so malabo talaga yun
pero ang pwede dila i-upgrade airport yun sangley airbase or plaridel aiport sa bulacan

hindi porket trillion ang cost eh malabo na gawin. mejo narrow thinking ito. tingnan mabuti ang economic benefits at costs bago sabihin na malabo gawin.

less traffic has its benefits.
less urban congestion has its benefits.
good airport has its benefits also.
etc

so hindi dapat outright ng sabihing malabo gawin dahil malaki gastos. ika nga "you get what you pay for". usually pag mura, hindi maganda quality.

my plano daw na gawan ng monorail link ng T1.T2,T3
kahit matagal wait lang natin gawin yun northrail manila-angeles, LRT 1 baclaran-bacoor extension, mrt7 to sjdm anu pa ba + TPLEX

this is the right way pero sana connected ang monorail sa existing MRT at LRT at i-allow ang baggage sa loob ng tren

[reactor]

Dami kasi magagaling mag isip at magplano pero kulang sa gawa. Madali sabihin NA ilipat any airport sa clark pero hindi naman accessible sa public transportation. Hong Kong taiwan and Singapore malayo sa city and airport pero kumpleto sa transportation, train, bus, taxi. Dito sa atin pati taxi exclusive sa airport concessionaire at sikip na parking sa mga private cars.

I think it's about time na isaayos na ang system para naman proud tayo mag invite bisita at comfortable tayo gumamit ng airport natin PLUS a free WiFi naman sana.

[timrev]

lets be positive sa upcoming NAIA expressway...more roads less traffic...easy access sa aiports and highway...magpakapraktical at realistic tayo sa kayang gawin ng goverment natin..

[dfopiso]

samahan din sana ni MP (since kanya na Meralco) ng electric bus ... pwede rin sa Edsa

[timrev]

pwede rin to

[dfopiso]

best of both worlds ... electric rail (or bus) and autos

[fourtheboys96]

lets be positive sa upcoming NAIA expressway...more roads less traffic...easy access sa aiports and highway...magpakapraktical at realistic tayo sa kayang gawin ng goverment natin..

does your family earn from building this project?

i have nothing against infra project but to say this statement is like Tito Sotto speaking against RH bill.

more roads does not necessarily mean less traffic especially if these roads converge to a one specific area which is the airport.

[timrev]

THIRTEEN firms have formally expressed interest in bidding for the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) Expressway project.

• San Migual Corporation;
• D. M. Consunji, Inc.;
• Macquarie Capital Securities (Phils.), Inc.;
• EGIS Projects;
• Metro Pacific Tollways Corp.;
• M/S IL & FS Transportation Network Ltd.;
• Ayala Corp.;
• Megawide Construction Corp.;
• EEI Corp.;
• Alloy MTD Phils.;
• DAELIM Philippines;
• J. E. Manalo Construction; and
• C. M. Pancho Construction.

[confused shoes]

does your family earn from building this project?

i have nothing against infra project but to say this statement is like Tito Sotto speaking against RH bill.

more roads does not necessarily mean less traffic especially if these roads converge to a one specific area which is the airport.

Simple lang ang logic nyan.

100 cars will leave the airport at the same time and use only one road, there are 100 cars on that road.
100 cars will leave the airport at the same time and use two roads, there are 50 cars on each road.
100 cars will leave the airport at the same time and use four roads, there are 25 cars on each road.

Meaning, 100 cars using the four roads at the same time can leave the airport faster by 4 times, in effect the volume at the airport will be reduce 4 times faster so the incoming traffic from the opposite direction will then be faster by the same factor.

Kung si Tito Sotto ang magplano dyan, ewan na lang.

[timrev]

The bidding for the proposed P13.575-billion Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) expressway project may be pushed back to December or early January next year to give interested parties more time to finalize their bids

[fourtheboys96]

Simple lang ang logic nyan.

100 cars will leave the airport at the same time and use only one road, there are 100 cars on that road.
100 cars will leave the airport at the same time and use two roads, there are 50 cars on each road.
100 cars will leave the airport at the same time and use four roads, there are 25 cars on each road.

Meaning, 100 cars using the four roads at the same time can leave the airport faster by 4 times, in effect the volume at the airport will be reduce 4 times faster so the incoming traffic from the opposite direction will then be faster by the same factor.

Kung si Tito Sotto ang magplano dyan, ewan na lang.

Late ko na nabasa ito pero kelangan ko talaga mag-reply hahaha.

100 cars on 4 roads means 25 cars per road. Tama ka. Pero kung iisa lang naman ang destination i.e. airport, we still have a bottle neck.
Bottomline, there are still 100 vehicles going to the airport. Reduce the vehicle volume to reduce traffic congestion.

[confused shoes]

Late ko na nabasa ito pero kelangan ko talaga mag-reply hahaha.

100 cars on 4 roads means 25 cars per road. Tama ka. Pero kung iisa lang naman ang destination i.e. airport, we still have a bottle neck.
Bottomline, there are still 100 vehicles going to the airport. Reduce the vehicle volume to reduce traffic congestion.

Kung si Tito Sotto mag plano, possible mangyari ang iniisip mo. Hindi naman siguro stupid ang mga highway engineers natin para going to the airport lang ang gagawing hiway. Syempre kung ano ang volume ng vehicles na papasok, ganun din ang palabas. Have you seen much bigger airports like Hong Kong International?

[timrev]

Aquino said an Australian company, Macquarie Infrastructure and Real Asset, is interested to bid for the NAIA Expressway project. He said the company has also partnered with the Government Service Insurance System to establish a $600-million infrastructure fund for the Philippines.

[yourman_2nd]

i think the primary reason for this NAIA Expressway is for easy and faster access to/from the Airport terminal to/from the Pagcor City. With the proposed Hotels, Casinos and Entertainment Complex to be built in Pagcor City catering to mostly tourists, they need to construct an Expressway to accommodate the influx of tourists. This project is far better proposal than the existing road networks to/from the terminals to roxas blvd. But if they can build a monorail system from the terminals to/from the PAGCOR City, then this is much better because this will reduce the need for cars/vans/buses travelling tourists to/from the airport to the PAgcor City.