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    #31
    Quote Originally Posted by alakdan168 View Post
    To ease our traffic woos, government officials are desperately seeking short term solutions for the traffic problems. Te likes of closing U-turn slots, banning then lifting truck bans, and the latest, a four day work week for government offices.

    Why don't we close shopping malls once or twice a week instead? It is very obvious that shopping malls contribute a lot to our traffic problems.. in the Metro Manila area as well as in provincial high ways where malls are allowed to operate.

    This could be done with different variations. Like along EDSA Mandaluyong, Mega Mall closes on Mondays, Galleria on Tuesdays, Shangri La on Wednesdays, or they can all close every Mondays... things like that. Aside from the possible easing of traffic, we also solve our eletricity shortage.

    What do you think?
    kawawa yung mga contractual worker... no work no pay, plus they dont have the added benefits.

    short term solution wont work.

    long term- better mass transport- better mrt - expand it- better pnr - then expand it again

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    #32
    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Closing the malls twice a week will effectively put one-fourth to one-third of all mall employees (all contractual... shifting) out of work. All for what? Malls open at 10-11 am, AFTER rush hour, and close after 9pm... again... AFTER rush hour.

    In other words, you've put thousands of people out of work and have reduced commuter load in the 7-9 am rush hour by... 0.5% (for those skeleton crews of janitors and security that open the malls before store employees can come in). Good job!

    Sige... tell mall owners they have to hire three shifts of people when they only need two. Tell them to share the profit that way. And while you're at it... hire three maids for your house, even if one won't come to work at all.

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    All these volume reduction schemes do is shuffle people around. What we need is to 1. Get rid of those people, and 2. Fix our transport system so it can cope with those left behind.

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    What's necessary is proper traffic management and centralized PUB/PUV routing and trip management. Some bus companies practice this within their fleets to prevent overlap... but this should really be done system-wide, to more evenly space out buses on the same line and to decongest thoroughfares.

    Further measures can include centralized planning of opening and closing times of businesses. Make it so that businesses sitting beside each other have staggered opening and closing times. Businesses already do this on their own. But if all the businesses and schools in an area work together, they can more effectively distribute the commuter load.

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    Long term, we need to give tax and economic incentives to people and businesses to leave the city. Otherwise, they're all going to want to live within five kilometers of Makati and Quezon City. Which means more and more of our 100 million people will be concentrated in a smaller and smaller space.
    sinagot na pala ni nicky, sorry. nice one!

    in france they have another city for their businesses, you wont see those tall sky scrappers in paris... unlike torre dela (&^%^*^)manila in rizal park
    Last edited by victorevolution; October 1st, 2014 at 12:54 PM.

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    #33
    Quote Originally Posted by alakdan168 View Post
    Banks, the backbone of the economy, can operate for only 5 days a week (except for ATMs) without detrimental effect on the economy, ditto for the Philippine Stock Exchange.
    Bank and stock exchange hours are dictated by the hours of international exchanges. No point in having a full business on Sunday when you can't do any trading or transfers.*

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    And also... banks don't make money by selling consumer goods. They make money off of credit card interest, loan interest and investment portfolios. The arrangements made for these items cannot be completed in one day. And they all earn money (interest) on weekends, even when the bank is closed.

    People only need to go to the bank once every week or once every two weeks. And if you have electronic banking... then just once a month. And yet... banks are now open for longer hours and even on Saturdays... because of demand. Eventually, some of the bigger ones might even open on Sunday.

    A mall doesn't make money when it's closed. The longer the stock in the mall sits unbought, the more money the mall loses. Worse yet if it's perishable goods like meat, vegetables and bread. If a mall closes for two days, then expect to not be able to buy bread at all from the grocery for half the week. They simply won't stock up. And the panaderias will not bake anything past the first batch on Friday morning. Good luck getting weekend supplies on your way home.

    And this is... what? For the pleasure of removing commuters from the road who (again) only travel after the rush hour is over?

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    *Try to make the banks close on Monday, however... and watch the economy tank.
    Last edited by niky; October 1st, 2014 at 01:07 PM.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #34
    IMHO, color coding, banning riders in tandem, truck bans, etc. are all from the same frame of mind - knee-jerk reactions (which adversely affect the economy, employment) and will not solve the problem. In each case, we need short term solutions and a long term solutions. In the case of crime: short term solutions- greater police visibility, involve the local community (citizens' neighborhood watch, deputize barangay tanods); long term solution- attract investments both foreign and local to improve the economy and reduce unemployment, reduce red tape, reduce corruption. Traffic problem: short term solution- enforce traffic rules, enforce bus/jeepney stops, stagger opening and closing times as Niky suggested; long term solution- efficient mass transit system that will reach the suburbs.

    We need real public administrators.
    Last edited by Monty; October 1st, 2014 at 01:14 PM.

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    #35
    They should ban those rolling advertisement trucks. They eat up space for no value at all and they roll slowly. There are already too many billboards in the city anyway.

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    #36
    Why not just close all gasoline station for a week,peace mga bros,
    Btt,decentralize the sits of government,let other business transfer to the surrounding provinces,lahat kasi narito na sa metro Manila kaya pati mga taga probinsya parang gamu gamo nakakita ng ilaw para lang masunog ang pakpak

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    ABSCBN is currently developing a corporate office in Bulacan. I heard all companies that are part of their group will transfer as well.


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    #38
    eventually, they will paint people and color-code them.
    bawal lumabas nang bahay one day in a week!!!

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    #39
    I really wish we could decongest Makati/Fort/Ortigas. Westgate and Sta. Rosa/Nuvali are ideal places to relocate for businesses. Our company is actually pondering on moving to Nuvali already.

    However, a big blocker to this being feasible is the cost for employees. Just because a company moves out of Manila doesn't mean its employees will move out as well. Imagine the cost of driving from QC to Nuvali - aside from the gas you'll be burning in traffic in C5, you'll be paying exorbitant toll. Just the toll alone will already double your monthly transpo expenses.

    As much as I want to live in the south, the fact that so much of our economy is still north of the SLEX makes it a very expensive and time-consuming option.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    I really wish we could decongest Makati/Fort/Ortigas. Westgate and Sta. Rosa/Nuvali are ideal places to relocate for businesses. Our company is actually pondering on moving to Nuvali already.

    However, a big blocker to this being feasible is the cost for employees. Just because a company moves out of Manila doesn't mean its employees will move out as well. Imagine the cost of driving from QC to Nuvali - aside from the gas you'll be burning in traffic in C5, you'll be paying exorbitant toll. Just the toll alone will already double your monthly transpo expenses.

    As much as I want to live in the south, the fact that so much of our economy is still north of the SLEX makes it a very expensive and time-consuming option.


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    actually, i blame our leaders on this.
    instead of encouraging moving out of manila,they have instead chosen to centrify the halls of power, commerce and leadership in metro manila.
    instead of building good roads to the suburbs and building honestly live-able housing projects outside manila, they build sub-human conditions around their re-settling areas.
    they have chosen to widen the metro's motorways, eating up into the sidewalks. then now, they encourage walking... walk where? on the street?

    our leaders may be good on things... but future-planning is not one of them..

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