Toyota Innova Owners & Discussions [continued 3]

**wakin** · March 6th, 2012 06:57 PM

the process that it took to completely fix my problem on fumes entering the cabin is almost a year. its not a one time solution. the blower is located at the rear right side so it has a tendency to suck air at the rear right flapper.
The following are the steps done at a time:
1. seal rear right flapper, seal rear right water drain (just under the flapper). tested for 3 mos. still problem persist.
2. seal rear left flapper, seal rear left water drain (also just under the flapper), tested for another 3 mos. still problem exist.
3. remove the rear bumper. you will see that chasis metal with lots of holes. this is not used for clips. seal every holes that you see. tested for another 3 mos. problem solved

During the different tests, naka set sa high ang blower sa likod na aircon. nag sindi ako ng katol ang placed it near sa flapper and chasis holes to check if the katol smoke would enter the cabin and true enough meron nga. it took me every 3 months before i can have my car brought to tpt dahil tinatamad ako. All of the 3 steps i mentioned nakita ko kung pano ginawa sa tpt thats why i know yung progress. they let me take a look sa loob ng bay area nila. since alam ko na kung pano nila ginawa so ako na lang gumawa nung 2nd innova ko.

hindi naman ganon kahirap isara yung mga doors, may konting effort lang. g variant yung sa ka officemante ko meron ding problem. lahat sila ginaya yung solution. actually hindi solution kundi cover up lang sa palpak na design. na involve na rin dito yung isang VP ng tmp. they are willing to loan me either a revo or an altis during the time na nagiisip sila kung pano maayos yung car ko. but then sabi ko no need for the loaner car gusto ko lang maayos kaagad.

ma swerte yung hindi nakaka encounter ng fumes comming from outside.

**Retz** · March 6th, 2012 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by wakin

the process that it took to completely fix my problem on fumes entering the cabin is almost a year. its not a one time solution. the blower is located at the rear right side so it has a tendency to suck air at the rear right flapper.
The following are the steps done at a time:
1. seal rear right flapper, seal rear right water drain (just under the flapper). tested for 3 mos. still problem persist.
2. seal rear left flapper, seal rear left water drain (also just under the flapper), tested for another 3 mos. still problem exist.
3. remove the rear bumper. you will see that chasis metal with lots of holes. this is not used for clips. seal every holes that you see. tested for another 3 mos. problem solved

During the different tests, naka set sa high ang blower sa likod na aircon. nag sindi ako ng katol ang placed it near sa flapper and chasis holes to check if the katol smoke would enter the cabin and true enough meron nga. it took me every 3 months before i can have my car brought to tpt dahil tinatamad ako. All of the 3 steps i mentioned nakita ko kung pano ginawa sa tpt thats why i know yung progress. they let me take a look sa loob ng bay area nila. since alam ko na kung pano nila ginawa so ako na lang gumawa nung 2nd innova ko.

hindi naman ganon kahirap isara yung mga doors, may konting effort lang. g variant yung sa ka officemante ko meron ding problem. lahat sila ginaya yung solution. actually hindi solution kundi cover up lang sa palpak na design. na involve na rin dito yung isang VP ng tmp. they are willing to loan me either a revo or an altis during the time na nagiisip sila kung pano maayos yung car ko. but then sabi ko no need for the loaner car gusto ko lang maayos kaagad.

ma swerte yung hindi nakaka encounter ng fumes comming from outside.

Interesting. ung mga hindi nakapag encounter ng fumes coming from outside does it mean sealed ung holes nila doon sa metal chassis?

**Ginnova** · March 6th, 2012 07:27 PM

na-curious tuloy ako sa holes on the garnish near rear bumper so i checked it. on my unit there are 6 holes but are covered by 6 clips so lahat natatakpan. unless yung holes for the wire clips yung walang takip.

**spat** · March 6th, 2012 10:45 PM

Thanks wain

**Mile2** · March 6th, 2012 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by Ginnova

na-curious tuloy ako sa holes on the garnish near rear bumper so i checked it. on my unit there are 6 holes but are covered by 6 clips so lahat natatakpan. unless yung holes for the wire clips yung walang takip.

Correct, napasilip din ako dito ngayon lang at na curious din, natatakpan yung holes ng plastic clips when you put back the plastic garnish cover.

**tuks** · March 7th, 2012 01:52 AM

Originally Posted by wakin

I had this problem on my 2006 innova j gas. the problem is the aircon design at the back.
Dito pumapasok yung outside fumes:
1. Yung air flapper/side vents (not sure what this is called) located sa side ng rear bumper (left and right)
2. yung bakal sa likod ng bumper. you will see this pag tinangal yung bumper. you will notice puro butas yung area na yon.

Solution from TMP c/o Toyota Pasong tamo:
1. Permanently takpan yung left and right flapper.
2. Permanently takpan lahat ng butas sa bakal.

Effect:
Hinbdi kagad masara yung mga doors dahil hindi kagad makalabas yung excess air.
Yung excess air lalabas sa left and right side ng dash board.

After 5 years I sold my innova. However, I bought another 2011 innova j gas. Surprisingly, ganon parin!
This time ako na lang gumawang solution 1 & 2. I used vulcaseal

Dito sa office namin we have 3 innova j gas and 1 innova g gas. Lahat sila has the same problem on fumes entering the cabin. Im just surprise bakit hindi ito major issue sa tsikot.

Confirm ko rin po sa aking innova j diesel nabili nung November 2011 itong problem na smoke entering thru aircon vent.

Pinatignan ko po sa Toyota Davao last month at sabi nila wala naman daw sila makitang butas na maaring daanan sa harap. Di ko po naisip yung sa back aircon.

Thanks so much for confirming this issue, pa-tsek ko ito sa 5k pms ko.

**ericson21** · March 7th, 2012 02:38 AM

medyo OT lang sa pinaguusapan about sa AC natin. may tanong lang ako.

ok po kaya sa D4D ko na mag shift ng diesel? right now i am using caltex's diesel w/ techron. super ok naman sa akin, no problem sa unit ko. pero parang nababasa ko sa montero sport thread na ok na ok sa kanila ang seaoil bioexceed diesel.

ok din kaya ito sa innova natin for D4D?

**wakin** · March 7th, 2012 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by Retz

Interesting. ung mga hindi nakapag encounter ng fumes coming from outside does it mean sealed ung holes nila doon sa metal chassis?

puzzled din po ako. i even went to the extent to remove the sidings ng 3rd row where the blower is located. gabi ko ginawa yon. ang idea is to use a pwerful flash light at ilagay sa near the blower ng aircon. habang naka ON yung flashlight tinignan ko from labas kung may makikitang ilaw. and yes meron akong nakitang ilaw from labas. that means doon pumapasok yung fumes.

**wakin** · March 7th, 2012 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by Ginnova

na-curious tuloy ako sa holes on the garnish near rear bumper so i checked it. on my unit there are 6 holes but are covered by 6 clips so lahat natatakpan. unless yung holes for the wire clips yung walang takip.

hindi po dyan yung tinutukoy ko. look underneat it. sa level ng spare tire. you will see a metal chasis na may mga holes. this metal chasis is the one which protects our vehicle from collision. i hope you find it. pasensya na walang pics eh. im just rying to help the peeps here.

**wakin** · March 7th, 2012 09:23 AM

Originally posted by tuks
Confirm ko rin po sa aking innova j diesel nabili nung November 2011 itong problem na smoke entering thru aircon vent.

Pinatignan ko po sa Toyota Davao last month at sabi nila wala naman daw sila makitang butas na maaring daanan sa harap. Di ko po naisip yung sa back aircon.

ganito rin po narining ko sa dealer ko until i escalated this to tmp.