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    #51
    Mukhang sa mid range variant panalo na ang Fortuner, pero sa top of the line and base variants mukhang Montero Sport pa rin. I always see more of the 2012 Fortuner G D4-Ds than the 2012 GLS-V of the Montero Sport on the roads, but more 2012 GTVs and GLX non VGTs than 2012 3.0 Vs and 2.7 G VVTis. Ako personally, lagyan lang ng Toyota ng cruise control at paddle shifters ang mid range variant ng Fortuner, mas panalo na talaga ito kesa sa GLS-V ng Montero.

    Oh by the way, naalala ko yung nabasa kong article sa Bangkok Post. They compared the 2013 Trailblazer, 2012 Fortuner and 2012 Montero Sport. All vehicles that were reviewed are the top of the line variants. I was a bit shocked nung sinabi doon sa review that the 2012 Fortuner has a better ride than the 2012 Montero Sport.

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    #52
    ^^^ Because they have better roads and highways.

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    #53
    so wala changes yung 4x4 3.0 D4d ng hilux? sorry medyo naguluhan ako kasi almost lahat fortuner ang tinatanong.

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    #54
    OT: bakit maingay diesel engine ng Fortuner compared sa SF?

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    #55
    Quote Originally Posted by dfopiso View Post
    OT: bakit maingay diesel engine ng Fortuner compared sa SF?
    Afaik 1st gen CRDi ang D4D ng Toyota and Mitsu while Kia/Hyundai is 3rd gen na kasi. Mas refined na. Also, Bosch gamit ni Korean vs Denso ng Japanese. Magkaiba din kasi so malang iba din performance ika nga.

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    #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Afaik 1st gen CRDi ang D4D ng Toyota and Mitsu while Kia/Hyundai is 3rd gen na kasi. Mas refined na. Also, Bosch gamit ni Korean vs Denso ng Japanese. Magkaiba din kasi so malang iba din performance ika nga.
    Hehehe, yung sa MS ko nga, 4D56 pa na gamit ng late 80s model na L200.
    Na-modernize lang kuno by using CRDi and turbo.

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    #57
    Quote Originally Posted by macstar1 View Post
    Hehehe, yung sa MS ko nga, 4D56 pa na gamit ng late 80s model na L200.
    Na-modernize lang kuno by using CRDi and turbo.
    That's a testament to the durability and flexibility of the 4d56. Similar to the 4g63 on numerous Evos. Not entirely a bad thing, especially parts option wise.

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    #58
    Quote Originally Posted by IMm29 View Post
    That's a testament to the durability and flexibility of the 4d56. Similar to the 4g63 on numerous Evos. Not entirely a bad thing, especially parts option wise.
    Yeah, my friend, who also owns an MS GLS-V, have a late 80s L200 in their family.
    Sablay na ang mga ball joints at steering, pero wala pa ring major issues sa 4D56 engine...

    Going back to Toyota ... I can still recall the Top Gear episode kung saan e tinorture nila ng husto ang late 80s hilux ... Ibinungo sa puno, hinampas ng wrecking ball, pinang demolish ng kubo, sinunog ang cab, inilubog sa dagat, ibinagsak mula sa ibabaw ng dinemolish na building ... On each torture test, napapagana pa rin nika ang makina after a few tweaks ...

    Sana lang e ganoon din katibay ang mga CRDi generations ...

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    #59
    Quote Originally Posted by macstar1 View Post
    Yeah, my friend, who also owns an MS GLS-V, have a late 80s L200 in their family.
    Sablay na ang mga ball joints at steering, pero wala pa ring major issues sa 4D56 engine...

    Going back to Toyota ... I can still recall the Top Gear episode kung saan e tinorture nila ng husto ang late 80s hilux ... Ibinungo sa puno, hinampas ng wrecking ball, pinang demolish ng kubo, sinunog ang cab, inilubog sa dagat, ibinagsak mula sa ibabaw ng dinemolish na building ... On each torture test, napapagana pa rin nika ang makina after a few tweaks ...

    Sana lang e ganoon din katibay ang mga CRDi generations ...
    Lupet nga nun! Amp!

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    #60
    ang goals yata ng mga latest engines ngayon is better fuel economy from smaller sized and lightweight but with higher output power. hindi na masyado on durability

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