Philippine Navy acquires Hamilton class patrol craft

[uls]

Most probably licensed. The Mk 1s were reportedly built in Taiwan. The Mk 2s are locally made with local design updates.

or pwede pinag aralan nalang ng propmech/safehull marine ang mga gawa ng taiwan at ginaya nalang

[uls]

kaya naman pala gumawa localy...sana yung high goverment official sa sobra ang yaman na madami din naibulsa hehehe sana mag sponsor sila kahit ipangalan sakanila...hehehe

so parang inamin din nila nangurakot sila

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kaya naman gumawa locally kahit ano basta may pondo

kahit spaceship na kasing laki ng Macross basta may magbabayad

alam naman natin ang pinoy meron talent and skill. wala lang puhunan hehe

[Monseratto]

Hope the Bushmaster have CIWS capability...

China recently test-fired a new cruise missile with twice the range U.S. intelligence agencies initially estimated, intelligence officials say.

The test comes as Chinese Communist officials last week appointed a top general in charge of China's missile buildup to a new post within the leadership that runs the military.

China fired a YJ-83 anti-ship cruise missile from a JH-7 fighter-bomber earlier this month over Bohai Bay, off northern China.

The test results surprised U.S. intelligence officials. Until recently, the estimated range of the YJ-83 had been assessed to be about 75 miles. The new missile test showed that its range is about 155 miles.

The last time the missile was tested was July 4, when the People's Daily, the official Communist Party newspaper, announced the testing of a beyond-visual-range anti-ship missile. This weapon is believed by Pentagon officials to be part of Beijing's efforts to develop a long-range strike capability against U.S. aircraft carriers and ships.

Officials say the missile represents a new capability for the Chinese military in conducting "over-the-horizon" attacks on U.S. or allied ships in any conflict with China. The YJ-83 is believed to be a derivative of the C-801 anti-ship cruise missile but can travel at supersonic speeds, making it very difficult for ships to stop.

Defense specialists say the YJ-83, sometimes called the C-803, also has the capability to receive target information in flight

Richard Fisher, a specialist on the Chinese military with the Jamestown Foundation, said the new YJ-83 will probably be outfitted on the upgraded JH-7a fighter-bomber.

"With a range of 250 km [155 miles], it gives the PLA and its export clients a new anti-ship missile that can fire beyond the reach of U.S. Naval anti-aircraft missiles like the Standard SM-2, which will soon equip Taiwan's Kidd-class destroyers," Mr. Fisher said.

[timrev]

happy ako para sa mga navy personell natin..sa wakas makakahawak, magagamit, masasakyan, makap sail sa makabagong warship ng pinas...na sa haba ng panahon eka nga ng mga taga navy na-neglect sila for upgrading...saludo po ako sainu sir!

sana ikunsidira din nila baka lang naman makakuha pa tayo ng isa pa:
11 ships to be decommissioned in fiscal 2013 Six frigates, four cruisers and an aircraft carrier are set to be decommissioned during fiscal 2013, according to US Navy
The six frigates will be sold to foreign militaries, while the four cruisers will be dismantled. Enterprise, the world’s first nuclear-powered aircraft carrier and the oldest active-duty warship in the fleet, will move to a shipyard March 15, 2013. There, it will await a date for decommissioning. Enterprise left on its final deployment Sunday.
Fiscal 2013 decommissioning schedule
Oct. 31: frigate Crommelin.
Feb. 15: frigate Underwood.
Feb. 27: frigate Curts.
March 15: carrier Enterprise and frigate Carr.
March 22: frigate Klakring.
March 31: cruisers Cowpens, Anzio, Vicksburg and Port Royal.
Aug. 30: frigate Reuben James.

[uls]

happy ako para sa mga navy personell natin..sa wakas makakahawak, magagamit, masasakyan, makap sail sa makabagong warship ng pinas...na sa haba ng panahon eka nga ng mga taga navy na-neglect sila for upgrading...saludo po ako sainu sir!

sana ikunsidira din nila baka lang naman makakuha pa tayo ng isa pa:
11 ships to be decommissioned in fiscal 2013 Six frigates, four cruisers and an aircraft carrier are set to be decommissioned during fiscal 2013, according to US Navy
The six frigates will be sold to foreign militaries, while the four cruisers will be dismantled. Enterprise, the world’s first nuclear-powered aircraft carrier and the oldest active-duty warship in the fleet, will move to a shipyard March 15, 2013. There, it will await a date for decommissioning. Enterprise left on its final deployment Sunday.
Fiscal 2013 decommissioning schedule
Oct. 31: frigate Crommelin.
Feb. 15: frigate Underwood.
Feb. 27: frigate Curts.
March 15: carrier Enterprise and frigate Carr.
March 22: frigate Klakring.
March 31: cruisers Cowpens, Anzio, Vicksburg and Port Royal.
Aug. 30: frigate Reuben James.

pambili

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[Monseratto]

The Frigates in the list have a small possibility the PN can purchase them. A number of the Oliver Perry class ships are in "friendly" foreign hands, including Egypt and Pakistan. Weapons not included. THe Cruisers are definitely not going anywhere, cuz their Ticonderoga class AEGIS ships.

[JohnM]

The Frigates in the list have a small possibility the PN can purchase them. A number of the Oliver Perry class ships are in "friendly" foreign hands, including Egypt and Pakistan. Weapons not included. THe Cruisers are definitely not going anywhere, cuz their Ticonderoga class AEGIS ships.

Problema lang sa Perry they were designed to keep up with the nuclear carriers so they only have gas-guzzling turbine engines. Walang diesel for patrols.

The Hamiltons have diesel engines for cruising and turbines for sprints. The PN is also looking at soon-to-be-retired European vessels with the same propulsion system.

Soldati class. Note the CIWS turret near the helipad. It has a pair on the port side.


Would've been great if we got FFG-57 though. Red Storm Rising is my all time fave

[timrev]

my rumors na my plan daw ang philippine navy at vietnam navy na mag war games...sa tingin nyo ok kaya yun?

meron din balita high navy official hanap din sila ng soon to be retired navy vessel sa austrila at south korea...

[Altis6453]

Buying navy ships is a long-term investment. It requires renewed effort on the part of the AFP and Philippine Navy to upgrade the capability of its personnel and modernize its equipment --- which means it should make Congress open the purse strings.

Right now, the PN is taking baby steps in building up its territorial defense capability. The high endurance cutters purchased from the USA as EDA serves 2 purposes or missions: training and patrol. It doesn't have the capability to interdict or repel intrusions by bigger, more modern navy vessels possessed by China and other claimants in the West Philippine Sea since most of the advanced sensors, radars and weapons of the Hamilton cutters were removed prior to its transfer to the Philippines. (which was also how the US avoids a diplomatic conflict with China).

Tama si Rear Admiral Alex Pama when he likened the acquisition of bigger/modern vessels as "buying a Mercedes when you are used to a bicycle". In effect, you need to have your men acquire the knowledge and skills for operating newer vessels as well as a new philosophy in how it will be used to defend our territory.

[uls]

and not only do you consider the cost of acquisition, you have to consider the cost of operating and maintaining those ships

kaya ba ng Pinas?

[Monseratto]

China is known to copy designs from commercial shipbuilder too.

From this...




Australian AMD 350

Length Overall: 42.5 m
Beam Overall: 12.2 m
Draft (maximum) :1.4 m

to this...








Chinese PLAN Stealth Houbei Class Type 22

Length Overall: 42.6 m
Beam Overall: 12.2 m
Draft (maximum) :1.5 m

[timrev]

grabe talaga mag pirated ang china...kahit daw yun stealth fighter jet J-20 fighter ginaya daw nila yun stealth paint technolgy ng US...

[uls]

magaling din naman mag kopya ang pinoy diba?

kaya lang walang puhunan kaya tambay lang... nag ku-kwentuhan nalang tungkol sa galing ng pinoy haha

ang China may puhunan gumawa ng kopya ng kahit ano

pera pera lang yan

pwede naman magkaroon ng aircraft carrier complete with aircraft and battle group escorts and nuclear sub ang Pinas

basta may pera why not?

[Boy Bastos]

Yup. Always the root cause. Money. Pambili. Pambayad.

Kaya tyaga na lang ang AFP sa luma at bargain. Pwede na yung mga cutters. Patrol duty lang naman ang kaya nun. Dagdagan na lang. Kumuha na lang ng mga missile-equipped frigate or destroyers kung kaya na ng budget.

Well at least AFP modernization is moving. Mukhang naibulsa na ni FVR, Erap at GMA ang budget sa 15years AFP modernization funds.

[miLes]

kaya naman pala gumawa localy...sana yung high goverment official sa sobra ang yaman na madami din naibulsa hehehe sana mag sponsor sila kahit ipangalan sakanila...hehehe

sino kaya yung local company? hocus pocus naman ata ito, we are in the market for highspeed crafts in 30mtrs LOA kaso walang gumagawa niyan dito sa pinas. Kung gawang navotas i doubt it can run even at 20knots

closest local boat builder i know that could make fast vessels is Propmech, but fastest they build was only 20knots using Caterpillar engines

kung hull frames lang madaming builders dito pero to run at 48knots you need high speed marine engines, which is hard to find locally. Yanmar and Cats could probably push it to 30knots. a triple engine MTU can do 40knots, each engine with more than 1000hp. kaso problema diyan technician and cost. MTU's are very expensive, mercedes benz to ng marine engines. hindi kaya ng phil navy maintenance nito in the long run

[shakatak70]

Yup. Always the root cause. Money. Pambili. Pambayad.

Kaya tyaga na lang ang AFP sa luma at bargain. Pwede na yung mga cutters. Patrol duty lang naman ang kaya nun. Dagdagan na lang. Kumuha na lang ng mga missile-equipped frigate or destroyers kung kaya na ng budget.

Well at least AFP modernization is moving. Mukhang naibulsa na ni FVR, Erap at GMA ang budget sa 15years AFP modernization funds.

Di ba during the time of Tabako na-ibenta anf Fort Bonifacio at ibang privatization ng mga gov't assests? isa siya sa nakinabang...

[timrev]

Coast Guard gets upgrade

Coast Guard gets upgrade - Yahoo! News Philippines

P1.5B from Malampaya to modernize Coast Guard

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/06...ze-coast-guard

[Monseratto]

Coast Guard gets upgrade

Coast Guard gets upgrade - Yahoo! News Philippines

P1.5B from Malampaya to modernize Coast Guard

P1.5B from Malampaya to modernize Coast Guard | ABS-CBN News

Not to buy new but repair old/broken/ immobile assets, including the ONLY CG helicopter. I think they mean by "modernize" is a new coat of paint...But "modernize" sounds better for a press release than "repair".

Transportation and Communications Secretary Manuel Roxas II yesterday said the government would use the money from the Malampaya fund to repair and refurbish three vessels and a helicopter of the Coast Guard for search and rescue operations.

[JohnM]

Yep the 1.5B is for repair. The Coast Guard has only 1 chopper flying. The other one is awaiting parts.

OTOH the budget is already set to buy quite a few more brand new SAR choppers. And there is talk that Japan will be transferring some of their Hamilton-age and -size cutters to the Coast Guard. More details during the SONA.

[timrev]

atleast meron diba kesa wala hehehe haist...

my plan din daw ang govt bilhan ng 'search and rescue plane' ang coast guard...sea plane ata