Philippine Navy acquires Hamilton class patrol craft

[donbuggy]

What if jeepneys were converted to midget submarines for the Philippine Navy?

[Monseratto]

The occupant would be gassed to death when that thing submerges. Walang propulsion system?

[robot.sonic]

What if jeepneys were converted to midget submarines for the Philippine Navy?

GTOil ba yan?

[donbuggy]

The occupant would be gassed to death when that thing submerges. Walang propulsion system?

Oxygen tanks provide air supply.

There should be a propeller behind for propulsion. The vehicle can also move on the ocean floor using its four wheels. It's a PHUV (Philippine underwater vehicle).

GTOil ba yan?

Yes. With a Daniel Dingle hydrogen / oxygen generator.

[timrev]

sana magkaRoon tayo ng 10 Maestrale class frigates at 10 pa hamilton class cutter para lalo pa natin madefend ang mga island natin lalo nasa spartlys island..

[111prez]

speaking of the brp del pilar, nasaan na ito?

nung dumating na ang mga maritime patrol vessels ng tsina sa panatag, bigla nalang nawala ito

[timrev]

we must install other heavy equipment, completed the radar mast, installed the shipborne multi-function Active Phased Array Radar (APAR) and Sea Eagle radar as sensors, hauled up Type 730 close-in weapon system (CIWS) seven-barreled 30mm machine guns to destroy incoming anti-ship missiles and enemy aircraft at short range, and tinkered with the fully automatic fire-and-forget Flying Leopard 3000 Naval (FL-3000N) air defense missile system. dapat soon lahat ng warship natin meron din nyan...

[Monseratto]

we must install other heavy equipment, completed the radar mast, installed the shipborne multi-function Active Phased Array Radar (APAR) and Sea Eagle radar as sensors, hauled up Type 730 close-in weapon system (CIWS) seven-barreled 30mm machine guns to destroy incoming anti-ship missiles and enemy aircraft at short range, and tinkered with the fully automatic fire-and-forget Flying Leopard 3000 Naval (FL-3000N) air defense missile system. dapat soon lahat ng warship natin meron din nyan...

And who will pay for all that?

Natatawa ako isang headline news

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/05...ilippines-2012

This amounts to US$ 30 million a year.

A brand new F-16C Block 50 cost US$ 45 million, an F-15C US$ 75 million and a Dassault Mirage US$ 58 million...

A second hand F-16 Block 30, is cheaper at US$ 12 million...

[timrev]

wild dream ba na magkaroon din tayo ng mga nyan in the near future i hope mabago na ang goverment natin...para kahit sa mga kaapuapuhan nalang natin hehehe... sarap mangarap na magkaroon din tayo ng mga nyan

[timrev]

AFP chief to receive 2nd US patrol ship

WASHINGTON D.C. Philippine Armed Forces chief Gen. Jessie Dellosa will formally accept delivery of the US Coast Guard high-endurance cutter USCGC Dallas in Charleston, South Carolina on Tuesday (May 22).

Dellosa will stay overnight here on Monday before flying to Charleston the next day. He will be met there by Rear Admiral Jose Luis Alano, Philippine Fleet commander, who is arriving there a day ahead.

The “Dallas” will be re-christened the BRP Ramon Alcaraz in honor of the Filipino naval officer who skippered the torpedo boat “Abra” that was among the first to engage Japanese forces at the opening days of World War II, shooting down 3 enemy planes in the sky above Manila Bay. He was later captured but survived the war, passing away in 2009 in Santa Ana, California.

She is the 2nd Hamilton-class all-weather patrol ship turned over to the Philippine Navy under a “hot transfer” arrangement with the US. The first ship BRP Gregorio del Pilar has been assigned to the Spratly Islands and recently figured in the stand-off with Chinese vessels in Scarborough Shoal.

The “Dallas” was launched in 1968 and initially served as an “ocean station”. She received her baptism of fire in Vietnam, providing fire support and interdiction of Vietcong smuggling boats.

The “Dallas” is equipped with an Oto Melara 76mm gun and two 25mm “Bushmaster” machineguns. However, officials tell ABS-CBN News that like the “Hamilton” the US is stripping down most of the modern gear aboard, especially the sophisticated radars and sensors, despite an appeal from top Philippine officials to keep the advanced equipment.

The BRP Alcaraz is not going home soon. It is scheduled to be refitted at the expense of the Philippine Navy. It is expected to arrive in the Philippines in the 3rd quarter of the year.

A Philippine Navy crew has been in the country for several weeks training aboard other Hamilton-class ships. This will be the same group that will take the BRP Alcaraz back to the Philippines.

This comes as the Pentagon today briefed the US Congress about China’s military modernization, especially growing indications that it was trying to extend its influence farther abroad.

Although China says it is spending $106 billion this year to upgrade its military – which is lower than US military spending – the report suggested they could be spending more than what they’re saying in public.

Philippine officials say they are setting aside $1.2 billion to buy new combat aircraft outside the US. The Philippines has expressed a desire to purchase a squadron of American-built F-16 Falcons but there have been questions about cost and the readiness of the Philippine Air Force for a quantum leap towards state-of-the-art planes.

[Ry_Tower]

Oxygen tanks provide air supply.

There should be a propeller behind for propulsion. The vehicle can also move on the ocean floor using its four wheels. It's a PHUV (Philippine underwater vehicle).


Yes. With a Daniel Dingle hydrogen / oxygen generator.

Naknang, GTOil powered pala. Panalo na tayo niyan.

Who needs to buy F-16's and other weaponry. :hysterical:

But seriously, the gov't should not (and could not) overspend on things that will be a problem in the long run. Ships & helicopters that can help patrol our borders vs illegal fishing and hijackers/terrorist is better than those being mentioned which we hope to fight China with. La na tayo laban dyan...

[timrev]

PH Navy needs bigger warships
WASHINGTON D.C. - A ranking Philippine Navy official said they will need more and bigger ships to protect the nation’s maritime borders miles away from one of the longest coastlines in the world.

Rear Admiral Jose Luis Alano, Philippine Fleet (PhilFleet) commander, said the country has no choice but to acquire ships like the US Coast Guard’s Hamilton-class cutters because of seasonal changes in the South China Sea that make it treacherous to smaller vessels about half of the time each year.

Alano and Armed Forces chief Gen. Jessie Dellosa formally accepted delivery of the USCGC Dallas, the 378-foot, 3,250-ton sister ship of the Hamilton that was turned over to the Philippine last year and rechristened the BRP Gregorio del Pilar, during formal rites in Charleston, South Carolina May 22.

Bigger ships, especially like the high-endurance, all-weather Hamilton-class cutters, can sail through huge waves and stay longer at sea, he explained.

He downplayed reports that like the Hamilton, the US had stripped the Dallas of its advanced weapons and electronic equipment despite a request from Philippine officials last January to keep them. They retained the 76mm Oto Melara but removed the 2 Mark 38 25mm cannons and the more sophisticated sensors.

Alano told the Manila Mail that since the Dallas underwent its last major retrofit in 1988, many of the machinery and equipment aboard needed replacement anyway.

He added that the Philippine Navy is buying its own Mark 38 “Bushmaster” chain guns that can spew 200 rounds per minute to distances of as far as 6 kilometers. One will be installed on the Dallas (to be rechristened BRP Ramon Alcaraz) and the 2nd will be installed on the BRP Gregorio del Pilar, after the Dallas arrives in Manila sometime in November.

Alano revealed they are also putting in new surveillance and command and control equipment. “This is part of arrangements when the vessel’s capabilities will be upgraded,” he explained. The equipment is being procured on “cash basis” under the US Foreign Military Sales (FMS) program.

But he admitted their bigger concern is how to sustain the naval modernization after decades of neglect. He said the development of a private-sector defense industry is crucial to the military’s long-term plans to build a credible defensive deterrent.

That is why they are excited about an ongoing acquisitions of Philippine-made 65-foot Multi-Purpose Attack Crafts (MPACs). A local company is constructing them, borrowing technology from Taiwan and Sweden. The MPACs have a top speed of 48 knots.

Although they are not exactly the “big ships” the Philippine needs to operate in the disputed parts of the South China Sea, Alano said the deal can kick-start a modest but home-bred naval defense industry. In the US, he noted, private companies – not the military – are the most active proponents of military modernization and are not timid about lobbying the Pentagon and Capitol Hill for funding.

A domestic defense industry would also help create demand for workers that have the skills needed for staffing a modern military. Alano explained that unlike ground forces, the Philippine Navy will need to recruit and train additional sailors who can operate the electronics and complex gadgets standard to most new warships.

He said they plan to buy up to 40 MPACs but most of them will go to replacing older patrol crafts that have become too expensive to maintain.

Philippine Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin said the government will award 138 contracts worth about P70 billion (about $1.2 billion) before July to boost military modernization.

[JohnM]

Mostly likely to be installed on the space vacated by the CIWS in the fantail. No news whether it will be aimed by the gunner's Mk 1 eyeball


or slaved to the existing FCS (if possible)

[timrev]

thats good news that they have plan to buy big guns sa warship natin halos walang baril...kahit luma na warship natin sana upgrade lahat ng gamit sa loob...waiting uli kami sa 3rd warship ng pinas...

[uls]

wala ba maitutulong si Jessica Sanchez?

[Monseratto]

That is why they are excited about an ongoing acquisitions of Philippine-made 65-foot Multi-Purpose Attack Crafts (MPACs). A local company is constructing them, borrowing technology from Taiwan and Sweden. The MPACs have a top speed of 48 knots.

Under licensed or copied?

[timrev]

wala ba maitutulong si Jessica Sanchez?

*uls baka sya kumanta ng lupang hinirang na slang sa inaguration ng bagong warship natin hahahaha

[uls]

mabuti naman. sayang naman yung pag hanga ng Pinas sa kanya kung wala siya maitulong diba?

pwede siguro punta siya sa Washington at humingi kay Obama ng isang aircraft carrier

[JohnM]

Under licensed or copied?

Most probably licensed. The Mk 1s were reportedly built in Taiwan. The Mk 2s are locally made with local design updates.

[timrev]

[B]PH Navy needs bigger warships


That is why they are excited about an ongoing acquisitions of Philippine-made 65-foot Multi-Purpose Attack Crafts (MPACs). A local company is constructing them, borrowing technology from Taiwan and Sweden. The MPACs have a top speed of 48 knots.

Philippine Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin said the government will award 138 contracts worth about P70 billion (about $1.2 billion) before July to boost military modernization.

kaya naman pala gumawa localy...sana yung high goverment official sa sobra ang yaman na madami din naibulsa hehehe sana mag sponsor sila kahit ipangalan sakanila...hehehe