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    #131
    China is known to copy designs from commercial shipbuilder too.

    From this...




    Australian AMD 350

    Length Overall: 42.5 m
    Beam Overall: 12.2 m
    Draft (maximum) :1.4 m

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    Chinese PLAN Stealth Houbei Class Type 22

    Length Overall: 42.6 m
    Beam Overall: 12.2 m
    Draft (maximum) :1.5 m
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    #132
    grabe talaga mag pirated ang china...kahit daw yun stealth fighter jet J-20 fighter ginaya daw nila yun stealth paint technolgy ng US...

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    #133
    magaling din naman mag kopya ang pinoy diba?

    kaya lang walang puhunan kaya tambay lang... nag ku-kwentuhan nalang tungkol sa galing ng pinoy haha

    ang China may puhunan gumawa ng kopya ng kahit ano

    pera pera lang yan

    pwede naman magkaroon ng aircraft carrier complete with aircraft and battle group escorts and nuclear sub ang Pinas

    basta may pera why not?
    Last edited by uls; June 2nd, 2012 at 11:55 AM.

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    #134
    Yup. Always the root cause. Money. Pambili. Pambayad.

    Kaya tyaga na lang ang AFP sa luma at bargain. Pwede na yung mga cutters. Patrol duty lang naman ang kaya nun. Dagdagan na lang. Kumuha na lang ng mga missile-equipped frigate or destroyers kung kaya na ng budget.

    Well at least AFP modernization is moving. Mukhang naibulsa na ni FVR, Erap at GMA ang budget sa 15years AFP modernization funds.

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    #135
    Quote Originally Posted by timrev View Post
    kaya naman pala gumawa localy...sana yung high goverment official sa sobra ang yaman na madami din naibulsa hehehe sana mag sponsor sila kahit ipangalan sakanila...hehehe
    sino kaya yung local company? hocus pocus naman ata ito, we are in the market for highspeed crafts in 30mtrs LOA kaso walang gumagawa niyan dito sa pinas. Kung gawang navotas i doubt it can run even at 20knots

    closest local boat builder i know that could make fast vessels is Propmech, but fastest they build was only 20knots using Caterpillar engines

    kung hull frames lang madaming builders dito pero to run at 48knots you need high speed marine engines, which is hard to find locally. Yanmar and Cats could probably push it to 30knots. a triple engine MTU can do 40knots, each engine with more than 1000hp. kaso problema diyan technician and cost. MTU's are very expensive, mercedes benz to ng marine engines. hindi kaya ng phil navy maintenance nito in the long run

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    #136
    Quote Originally Posted by Boy Bastos View Post
    Yup. Always the root cause. Money. Pambili. Pambayad.

    Kaya tyaga na lang ang AFP sa luma at bargain. Pwede na yung mga cutters. Patrol duty lang naman ang kaya nun. Dagdagan na lang. Kumuha na lang ng mga missile-equipped frigate or destroyers kung kaya na ng budget.

    Well at least AFP modernization is moving. Mukhang naibulsa na ni FVR, Erap at GMA ang budget sa 15years AFP modernization funds.
    Di ba during the time of Tabako na-ibenta anf Fort Bonifacio at ibang privatization ng mga gov't assests? isa siya sa nakinabang...

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    #137
    Coast Guard gets upgrade

    Coast Guard gets upgrade - Yahoo! News Philippines

    P1.5B from Malampaya to modernize Coast Guard

    http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/06...ze-coast-guard

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    #138
    Quote Originally Posted by timrev View Post
    Not to buy new but repair old/broken/ immobile assets, including the ONLY CG helicopter. I think they mean by "modernize" is a new coat of paint...But "modernize" sounds better for a press release than "repair".

    Transportation and Communications Secretary Manuel Roxas II yesterday said the government would use the money from the Malampaya fund to repair and refurbish three vessels and a helicopter of the Coast Guard for search and rescue operations.
    Last edited by Monseratto; June 29th, 2012 at 10:43 AM.

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    #139
    Yep the 1.5B is for repair. The Coast Guard has only 1 chopper flying. The other one is awaiting parts.

    OTOH the budget is already set to buy quite a few more brand new SAR choppers. And there is talk that Japan will be transferring some of their Hamilton-age and -size cutters to the Coast Guard. More details during the SONA.

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    #140
    atleast meron diba kesa wala hehehe haist...

    my plan din daw ang govt bilhan ng 'search and rescue plane' ang coast guard...sea plane ata

Philippine Navy acquires Hamilton class patrol craft