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    #121
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM View Post
    Most probably licensed. The Mk 1s were reportedly built in Taiwan. The Mk 2s are locally made with local design updates.
    or pwede pinag aralan nalang ng propmech/safehull marine ang mga gawa ng taiwan at ginaya nalang

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    Quote Originally Posted by timrev View Post
    kaya naman pala gumawa localy...sana yung high goverment official sa sobra ang yaman na madami din naibulsa hehehe sana mag sponsor sila kahit ipangalan sakanila...hehehe
    so parang inamin din nila nangurakot sila

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    kaya naman gumawa locally kahit ano basta may pondo

    kahit spaceship na kasing laki ng Macross basta may magbabayad

    alam naman natin ang pinoy meron talent and skill. wala lang puhunan hehe

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    #123
    Hope the Bushmaster have CIWS capability...

    China recently test-fired a new cruise missile with twice the range U.S. intelligence agencies initially estimated, intelligence officials say.

    The test comes as Chinese Communist officials last week appointed a top general in charge of China's missile buildup to a new post within the leadership that runs the military.

    China fired a YJ-83 anti-ship cruise missile from a JH-7 fighter-bomber earlier this month over Bohai Bay, off northern China.

    The test results surprised U.S. intelligence officials. Until recently, the estimated range of the YJ-83 had been assessed to be about 75 miles. The new missile test showed that its range is about 155 miles.

    The last time the missile was tested was July 4, when the People's Daily, the official Communist Party newspaper, announced the testing of a beyond-visual-range anti-ship missile. This weapon is believed by Pentagon officials to be part of Beijing's efforts to develop a long-range strike capability against U.S. aircraft carriers and ships.

    Officials say the missile represents a new capability for the Chinese military in conducting "over-the-horizon" attacks on U.S. or allied ships in any conflict with China. The YJ-83 is believed to be a derivative of the C-801 anti-ship cruise missile but can travel at supersonic speeds, making it very difficult for ships to stop.

    Defense specialists say the YJ-83, sometimes called the C-803, also has the capability to receive target information in flight

    Richard Fisher, a specialist on the Chinese military with the Jamestown Foundation, said the new YJ-83 will probably be outfitted on the upgraded JH-7a fighter-bomber.

    "With a range of 250 km [155 miles], it gives the PLA and its export clients a new anti-ship missile that can fire beyond the reach of U.S. Naval anti-aircraft missiles like the Standard SM-2, which will soon equip Taiwan's Kidd-class destroyers," Mr. Fisher said.
    Last edited by Monseratto; June 1st, 2012 at 03:09 PM.

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    #124
    happy ako para sa mga navy personell natin..sa wakas makakahawak, magagamit, masasakyan, makap sail sa makabagong warship ng pinas...na sa haba ng panahon eka nga ng mga taga navy na-neglect sila for upgrading...saludo po ako sainu sir!

    sana ikunsidira din nila baka lang naman makakuha pa tayo ng isa pa:
    11 ships to be decommissioned in fiscal 2013 Six frigates, four cruisers and an aircraft carrier are set to be decommissioned during fiscal 2013, according to US Navy
    The six frigates will be sold to foreign militaries, while the four cruisers will be dismantled. Enterprise, the world’s first nuclear-powered aircraft carrier and the oldest active-duty warship in the fleet, will move to a shipyard March 15, 2013. There, it will await a date for decommissioning. Enterprise left on its final deployment Sunday.
    Fiscal 2013 decommissioning schedule
    Oct. 31: frigate Crommelin.
    Feb. 15: frigate Underwood.
    Feb. 27: frigate Curts.
    March 15: carrier Enterprise and frigate Carr.
    March 22: frigate Klakring.
    March 31: cruisers Cowpens, Anzio, Vicksburg and Port Royal.
    Aug. 30: frigate Reuben James.

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    #125
    Quote Originally Posted by timrev View Post
    happy ako para sa mga navy personell natin..sa wakas makakahawak, magagamit, masasakyan, makap sail sa makabagong warship ng pinas...na sa haba ng panahon eka nga ng mga taga navy na-neglect sila for upgrading...saludo po ako sainu sir!

    sana ikunsidira din nila baka lang naman makakuha pa tayo ng isa pa:
    11 ships to be decommissioned in fiscal 2013 Six frigates, four cruisers and an aircraft carrier are set to be decommissioned during fiscal 2013, according to US Navy
    The six frigates will be sold to foreign militaries, while the four cruisers will be dismantled. Enterprise, the world’s first nuclear-powered aircraft carrier and the oldest active-duty warship in the fleet, will move to a shipyard March 15, 2013. There, it will await a date for decommissioning. Enterprise left on its final deployment Sunday.
    Fiscal 2013 decommissioning schedule
    Oct. 31: frigate Crommelin.
    Feb. 15: frigate Underwood.
    Feb. 27: frigate Curts.
    March 15: carrier Enterprise and frigate Carr.
    March 22: frigate Klakring.
    March 31: cruisers Cowpens, Anzio, Vicksburg and Port Royal.
    Aug. 30: frigate Reuben James.
    pambili

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    #126
    The Frigates in the list have a small possibility the PN can purchase them. A number of the Oliver Perry class ships are in "friendly" foreign hands, including Egypt and Pakistan. Weapons not included. THe Cruisers are definitely not going anywhere, cuz their Ticonderoga class AEGIS ships.

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    #127
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    The Frigates in the list have a small possibility the PN can purchase them. A number of the Oliver Perry class ships are in "friendly" foreign hands, including Egypt and Pakistan. Weapons not included. THe Cruisers are definitely not going anywhere, cuz their Ticonderoga class AEGIS ships.
    Problema lang sa Perry they were designed to keep up with the nuclear carriers so they only have gas-guzzling turbine engines. Walang diesel for patrols.

    The Hamiltons have diesel engines for cruising and turbines for sprints. The PN is also looking at soon-to-be-retired European vessels with the same propulsion system.

    Soldati class. Note the CIWS turret near the helipad. It has a pair on the port side.


    Would've been great if we got FFG-57 though. Red Storm Rising is my all time fave
    Last edited by JohnM; June 1st, 2012 at 04:43 PM.

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    #128
    my rumors na my plan daw ang philippine navy at vietnam navy na mag war games...sa tingin nyo ok kaya yun?

    meron din balita high navy official hanap din sila ng soon to be retired navy vessel sa austrila at south korea...

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    #129
    Buying navy ships is a long-term investment. It requires renewed effort on the part of the AFP and Philippine Navy to upgrade the capability of its personnel and modernize its equipment --- which means it should make Congress open the purse strings.

    Right now, the PN is taking baby steps in building up its territorial defense capability. The high endurance cutters purchased from the USA as EDA serves 2 purposes or missions: training and patrol. It doesn't have the capability to interdict or repel intrusions by bigger, more modern navy vessels possessed by China and other claimants in the West Philippine Sea since most of the advanced sensors, radars and weapons of the Hamilton cutters were removed prior to its transfer to the Philippines. (which was also how the US avoids a diplomatic conflict with China).

    Tama si Rear Admiral Alex Pama when he likened the acquisition of bigger/modern vessels as "buying a Mercedes when you are used to a bicycle". In effect, you need to have your men acquire the knowledge and skills for operating newer vessels as well as a new philosophy in how it will be used to defend our territory.

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    #130
    and not only do you consider the cost of acquisition, you have to consider the cost of operating and maintaining those ships

    kaya ba ng Pinas?

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