PAF to Acquire Fighter Jets from Korea

[greenlyt]

heard sa news kagabi may isang left wing congressman na medyo tumututol dito pero in a subtle way, baka daw kasi ibawas sa ibang budget yun pambili like budget for education.

[timrev]

eto ang plan na bilhin ng govt for airforce

T-50 surface attack aircraft, lead-in fighter na gawang Korean na ang bawat isa'y nagkakahalaga ng P1.25 bilyon, o P15 bilyon para sa isang dosena.
6 - super tucano(brazil) 4.968 bill P
3 - C27J medium lift aircraft (italy) 5.9bill P
2 - C212 lift light aircraft (indonesia) 814mill P
10 - fennec attack helicopter (france) 3.4bill P
21 - UH1D utility helicopter 1.2bill P

[timrev]

This is classified but, the Philippines will have its own designed and manufactured jet soon. Straight Filipino from the Mechanics to the Engineers. Soon. I can't disclose furthermore info regarding it.

sir sana magkatotoo po yan planong yan... *SiRbossR ur a pilot? isa ka ba sa magtetest flight nun kung sakali?

[Boy Bastos]

PAF only ordered 6 of these light birds?

Hindi man lang gawing 24. :D

Embraer EMB 314 Super Tucano - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[JohnM]

heard sa news kagabi may isang left wing congressman na medyo tumututol dito pero in a subtle way, baka daw kasi ibawas sa ibang budget yun pambili like budget for education.

May sariling budget ang education. Di lang sa education pumupunta

Malaking pera meron sa Modernization Fund. People were asking whether Tabako, Wristband or the Little Girl had anything to do with its disappearance. Apparently it is still available and being put to good use. Funds from Malampaya are also being used for some of the purchases to protect the DOE's interests in the West Philippine Sea that the big bad Dragon is eyeing. So we have the money. Let's see if we have the systems in place and the will to maintain our brand new toys

Worst case: C130s rotting in Cebu


Best case: In-house C130 refurbishment in Clark

[timrev]

PAF only ordered 6 of these light birds?

Hindi man lang gawing 24. :D

Embraer EMB 314 Super Tucano - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

kaya nga sana dagdagan pa nila...siguro naman pagnagkaroon tayo nyan mga yan kaya ng pulbusin ang abu sayaf sa basilan ang liit ng isla di nila mapuksa
sa ABS ko napanood yun report sa pagbili nila ng aircraft

[JohnM]

kaya nga sana dagdagan pa nila...siguro naman pagnagkaroon tayo nyan mga yan kaya ng pulbusin ang abu sayaf sa basilan ang liit ng isla di nila mapuksa
sa ABS ko napanood yun report sa pagbili nila ng aircraft

Andun pa naman ang OV10 that reportedly will not retire as long as it still makes economic sense to keep them flying.

[Boy Bastos]

Paper plane? And how soon is soon? Soon was also said of the Super Pinto project, but where is it now?

Pinatay na yung lead ng project na yan. Remember the airport-tower hostage drama?

[coiter]

heard sa news kagabi may isang left wing congressman na medyo tumututol dito pero in a subtle way, baka daw kasi ibawas sa ibang budget yun pambili like budget for education.

afaik may mga items sa national budget na di pwedeng bawasan and one of them is education (kasama din ata ang health). siguro natatakot lang si left wing congressman kasi may dagdag armas ang military para labanan ang npa

may article ngayon sa philstar saying na 18 aircraft daw (12 fighters and another 6 fixed wing) ang iproprocure. tapos dadating pa yung 2nd batch ng Sokol choppers and rollout ng 2 refurbished C-130. nice!

[timrev]

mabuti kung ganun maidedeliver na yun 2nd batch of sokol helicopters...sa wakas makakahay na ng modern aircraft ang pinoy natin piloto sa airforce...
sana bago matapos term ni Pnoy magkaroon na tayo ng credible military defense...

madagdagan pa sana yun order nila ng fennec attack helicopter

[SiRbossR]

Paper plane? And how soon is soon? Soon was also said of the Super Pinto project, but where is it now?

No, really. Marcos regime pa was this planned and agreed to. Soon there will be mass hiring of mechanics and engineers.


Rolls Royce will also open a plant here for production of Gas Turbine Engines.

sir sana magkatotoo po yan planong yan... *SiRbossR ur a pilot? isa ka ba sa magtetest flight nun kung sakali?

Yes i am but no, i don't have a rating for the jet nor any fighter jet for that matter.

[pop3corn]

sayang lang pera dito, bibili ka ng P25B na jet fighter tapos walang pang-gas o pang-ammo. buy 10 and that's P250B whoaa!

sa ginagawa ng mga Generals and retired Generals natin na pinagbebenta ang mga weapons natin to the insurgents, to buy EDSA buses and PUVs to clog EDSA, eh lalo lang mapupuno ng PUVs buong Pilipinas pag binenta nila mga parts neto.

let's just face it, we're not a Military might type of people, we're better off as underdogs and guerilla warfares


let's say just lick the ass of the United States. The US loves to play hero with their mighty fleet, balik na lang US bases.
we have so many Pinays naman to make their stay here pleasant naman eh.


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we should improve our internal network infrastructure first, yun tipong may sariling broadband ang military and our govt. eh hanggang ngaun clone PC pa din gamit ng agencies natin with diskette lol. kung wala tayo internal network, flying blind yan lang mga mamahalin jetfighters na yan pag nagka-gyera

[JohnM]

Rolls Royce will also open a plant here for production of Gas Turbine Engines.

I really hope you're not pulling our collective legs or I'll feed you to the troll

So far I've heard about Lufthansa Technik's turbine teardown and A380 repair facility here: Engine_Locations - Lufthansa Technik AG

Turbine production will be great. Our most recently acquired Navy ships have turbines for sprints.

[Monseratto]

No, really. Marcos regime pa was this planned and agreed to. Soon there will be mass hiring of mechanics and engineers.

If it is the Super Pinto, don't bet on it. On and off ang usapan na iyan for decades since walang makitang insane private investor. Better to study the S-211 than trying to manufacture a 1960s jurrasic design...

Rolls Royce will also open a plant here for production of Gas Turbine Engines.

I think you got your info wrong. The Roll-Royce deal is for the purchase/maintence of Trent engines for Cebu Pacific's new A330s.

PNoy to bring back Rolls Royce deal, $1-B in investments from UK

Also, a meeting among Cebu Pacific Air, Rolls-Royce, and Royal Aero GmbH resulted in a $280-million agreement in which Rolls Royce will be supplying and maintaining the aircraft of budget airline Cebu Pacific.

[timrev]

No, really. Marcos regime pa was this planned and agreed to. Soon there will be mass hiring of mechanics and engineers.


Rolls Royce will also open a plant here for production of Gas Turbine Engines.



Yes i am but no, i don't have a rating for the jet nor any fighter jet for that matter.

nabasa nyo yan...kahit panu be positive mga katsikot para mahal natin pinas...
goodnews yan *SiRbossR sana nga magkatotoo baka kasi proposal palang...pero positive po kami jan...balitaan nyo po kami sa development...

sana upgrade din lahat ng radars ng military partner din yan for figther jets

OB be happy nalang atleast magkakaroon na tayo...di pwede guerilla warfares lagi hehehe

[safeorigin]

IMO this should be next in their to buy list:

Embraer R-99 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

or attach the AEW&C below to another plane

EL/W-2085 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If they want to sink ships...

Kh-35 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

for 21 million pesos a piece

[userfriendly]

eto ang plan na bilhin ng govt for airforce

T-50 surface attack aircraft, lead-in fighter na gawang Korean na ang bawat isa'y nagkakahalaga ng P1.25 bilyon, o P15 bilyon para sa isang dosena.
6 - super tucano(brazil) 4.968 bill P
3 - C27J medium lift aircraft (italy) 5.9bill P
2 - C212 lift light aircraft (indonesia) 814mill P
10 - fennec attack helicopter (france) 3.4bill P
21 - UH1D utility helicopter 1.2bill P

Bakit parang ang mahal nung Tucano? Almost 828M pesos or $19.255M per copy. Per wiki it costs $9-14M. Hmmm ......
Why not buy UAVs? Its cheaper and proven to work. Is great for patrol work. I read somewhere that the Scan eagle UAV is only around $100,000

[SiRbossR]

correct sir monseratoo, Rolls Royce and Cebu Pac is partnering, i just clarified this with my co-worker. But not only maintenance. I learned that they may also produce.

regarding the governments plan of producing Jets, it's not the super pinto anymore. There are a lot of designs already from aero engineers.

[Altis6453]

Bakit parang ang mahal nung Tucano? Almost 828M pesos or $19.255M per copy. Per wiki it costs $9-14M. Hmmm ......
Why not buy UAVs? Its cheaper and proven to work. Is great for patrol work. I read somewhere that the Scan eagle UAV is only around $100,000

Errr...the AFP cannot buy new war equipment without an Integrated Support and Logistics package which includes:

1. Training in operational use
2. Training in maintenance
3. Logistics and spares for several years
4. Facilities for stores and maintenance

So the cost per unit of the aircraft or whatever other equipment purchased takes into account the ISL.

UAVs were never used for interdiction of aircraft intruding in territorial airspace. It doesn't have the performance or armaments to go head to head with another jet fighter.

[miso_honi]

Errr...the AFP cannot buy new war equipment without an Integrated Support and Logistics package which includes:

1. Training in operational use
2. Training in maintenance
3. Logistics and spares for several years
4. Facilities for stores and maintenance

So the cost per unit of the aircraft or whatever other equipment purchased takes into account the ISL.

UAVs were never used for interdiction of aircraft intruding in territorial airspace. It doesn't have the performance or armaments to go head to head with another jet fighter.

lessons from the pearl harbor attack:
never park the planes in close proximity with each other,
protect the assets from an aerial attack using Hardened Air Shelters (HAS).
without proper storage and secure parking areas, the dreamed about military hardware are sitting ducks, bait, targets and a great loss of hard earned cash.
there are hardly if any radars and air space intrusion capability. this is where PAGASA satellites and radars have to be tapped to augment the area awareness. so much for the aircraft, where are the refuelling stations? how about command and control? armament resupply? hangars for pre-flight, post-flight inspections? aerial refuellilng? maintenance docks? these are major assets that need to be maintained and protected. this is more complex than just planning and purchasing equipment