PAF to Acquire Fighter Jets from Korea
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MANILA, Philippines – The Philippine Air Force (PAF) said they will be acquiring fighter jets in the next two years.
Twelve surface attack aircraft lead-in fighters or TA-50s from South Korea are expected to be delivered by 2013.
Each jet costs P1.25 billion for a total of P25 billion for the dozen jets.
The TA-50 is a supersonic aircraft that requires more experienced pilots.
Authorities said bulk of the P70 billion allocated for the modernization of the Armed Forces under the Aquino administration will go to the Air Force.
“Dati hindi natin pinapansin ang territorial defense dahil wala nga tayong capability gaya ngayon. ‘Yung* bangka ‘yung atin, ‘yung kalaban natin napakalaking platform. Ngayon, tumaas ang rating ng problema natin sa territorial defense. Hindi pala natin pwedeng isantabi,” said Defense Sec. Voltaire Gazmin.
The Air Force currently has two trainer jets, which are now nearly 25 years old.
The S-211s were originally meant for training purposes but the military was forced to use them in actual operations.
The PAF admits that this is the current image of the air power of the Philippines, which has been left behind by its neighbors.
The country's lone fighter jet, an F-5, was sidelined in 2005 and has yet to be replaced.
“At that time, the leadership decided that we didn’t need this because there's no threat in that area kaya nag-concentrate tayo sa mga ginagamit nating aircraft para sa internal security operations,” said Col. Miguel Ernesto Okol, spokesman of the PAF.
But the current tensions at the Scarborough Shoal have placed a spotlight on the country's air inferiority.
Last week, a suspected Chinese fighter jet flew over the disputed shoal.
Gazmin says President Aquino is serious in beefing up the military so as not to be ignored by foreign powers. -- Reports from Anthony Taberna, ABS-CBN News; ANC
Finally, baby steps towards a modernized air force! :nod:
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^Nice find, bro.
The plane looks a lot like an F16, except that the intakes are located at the sides of the fuselage.
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so,noong term nila ramos, gma, wala palang threats, kaya di nila naisip bumili nyan.
nice. at least sa term ni Pnoy, natupad na pangarap ng PAF.
imagine, iisa lang ang F5 nasira pa......:no:
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I'm scared and wondering if they will also upgrade and re-train the maintenance team that will handle these aircrafts.
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Sana i train din yung maintenance team pati yung mga avionics specialist sa Korea.
OT: ilang flight hours kaya required para makapag palipad niyan? :D
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Altis6453
Finally, baby steps towards a modernized air force! :nod:
has the PAF considered the japanese version of the u.s. f 16, the f2 which has been flying from japan to guam or maybe even hawaii? the platform are similar and so are the capabilities and fitments that of the f 16
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jick.cejoco
has the PAF considered the japanese version of the u.s. f 16, the f2 which has been flying from japan to guam or maybe even hawaii? the platform are similar and so are the capabilities and fitments that of the f 16
Probably not since the PAF acquisition called for lead-in fighter trainers (LIFTs). Note also that the acquisition cost of a Mitsubishi F2 fighter is four times the cost of a (Block 52) F16 Falcon, or about US$110 Million apiece. Production of the F2 ended in September 2011 and no example was ever exported or delivered outside of Japan.
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Cockpit layout is very F-16...also feature a HOTAS. Read the deal will include a surplus Frigate/Destroyer to the PN. Any confirmation?
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../8/1315857.jpg
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../0/1512016.jpg
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a little too late... pero better late than never!
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those nice jets would need nice weapons... like air-to-air missiles
AIM-7 Sparrow? AIM-9 Sidewinder?
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Exciting news but IMO better wait for the final report from the DND :nod:
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anu ba tawag sa bomb na hinuhulog? pwede ba yun jan ikabit? katulad ng ginamit sa movie 'tears on the sun' yun binagsak na bomba ng figther jet ng US...
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timrev
anu ba tawag sa bomb na hinuhulog?
I think it is still called a bomb. :grin:
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pwede ba yun jan ikabit? katulad ng ginamit sa movie 'tears on the sun' yun binagsak na bomba ng figther jet ng US...
Yung maraming flames? Napalm bomb.
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magkano kaya isang guided missile?
magkano kaya isang smart bomb?
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chua_riwap
so,noong term nila ramos, gma, wala palang threats, kaya di nila naisip bumili nyan.
nice. at least sa term ni Pnoy, natupad na pangarap ng PAF.
imagine, iisa lang ang F5 nasira pa......:no:
sa wakas magkakaroon na ng force ang ating philippine air force. dati 99% air 1% force. aswang force:grin:
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Great news
So here are some stats from Wikipedia. :D
Aircraft Summary
- TA-50 Golden Eagle (Tactical trainer/light attack)
- South Korean Derivative of F-16 Fighting Falcon
- First Flight: 20 August 2002
- Introduction: 22 February 2005
- TA-50 Unit Cost: US$25 million (1.0535 Billion PHP)
- Powerplant: 1× General Electric F404 afterburning turbofan
- Maximum speed: Mach 1.4~1.5
- Service ceiling: 16,760 m (55,000 ft)
- Guns: 1× 20 mm (0.787 in) General Dynamics A-50 3-barreled rotary cannon
- Hardpoints: Total: 7
- Rockets: Hydra 70, LOGIR
- Missiles:
- - Air-to-air: AIM-9 Sidewinder, AIM-120 AMRAAM.
- - Air-to-ground: AGM-65 Maverick
- Bombs: Mk 82, Mk 83, and Mk 84 general purpose bombs with SPICE, JDAM, or JDAM-ER guidance kits; CBU-97/105 sensor fuzed weapons, laser-guided bombs
- Manufacturer: Korea Aerospace Industries (Founded by Samsung Aerospace, Daewoo Heavy Industries (aerospace division), and Hyundai Space and Aircraft Company)
Although it would have been wiser to buy the FA-50 variant for 5 Million USD more instead , this is good enough. But the story doesn't end here. The following are the list of Aircraft Armaments and their corresponding per Unit cost:
- AIM-9 Sidewinder (Short-range air-to-air missile): US$85,000 (3.582 Million PHP)
- AIM-120 AMRAAM 120C (beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile, fire & forget): $300,000–$400,000 (12.6422 Million to 16.8563 Million PHP)
- AIM-120 AMRAAM 120D (beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile, fire & forget): $700,000 (29.4985 Million PHP)
- AGM-65 Maverick (precision-guided weapon): 17,000 to $160,000 (716 392.75 PHP to 6.7425 Million PHP)
- Mk 82 (unguided, low-drag general-purpose bomb): $268.50 (11,314.79 PHP)
- Mk 83 (low-drag general-purpose bomb): no data yet :D
- Mark 84 or BLU-117 (General-purpose_bomb): $3,100 (130,636 PHP)
- Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) KIT (guidance kit that converts unguided bombs, or "dumb bombs" into all-weather "smart" munitions): Approximately $25,000 (1.0535 Million PHP); depends on acquisition lot. Foreign sales have considerably higher prices.
This means it will take a few million or billion more to ARM and Maintain the fleet for years to come. If we are going to go up against China we will need Beyond Visual Range Weapons to effectively protect our land area and the plane itself. I would suggest 4 Units of AIM-120C for each of the planes. 2 to bring for every operation and 2 for stockpiling. So in order to have appropriate defense measure alone it will cost 606.8 Million PHP. But those are very conservative numbers, so we may need to order more Air-to-Air missiles. :)
God bless Philippines! Im waiting see this in action to solve the Mindanao Crisis any time soon. Also all these weapons are manufactured and sold by the US so we're gonna pay US huge sums to keep our planes formidable. :D
Also, I would like to request President Benigno Simeon Cojuangco Aquino, III to host a Flight Demonstration when all the 12 jets are finally delivered, perhaps for every major Tax Paying City here in the Philippines. Please include Iligan City. I would like to here the Sonic Boom personally. :)
Lastly, it stated in Wikipedia that each plane in 2011 prices cost 25 Million USD (1.0535 Billion PHP). I am open to any explanation on how the cost for 12 Planes got to 25 Billion PHP effectively doubling 2011 prices. I hope this one doesn't get to become the likes of ZTE.
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uls
magkano kaya isang guided missile?
magkano kaya isang smart bomb?
I doubt if a mere LIFT like the TA-50 can carry guided bomb units (GBUs). Even if it could, the PAF could not afford a lot of them.