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    #21
    There are slums in HK too. Yung nga lang tago. Parang sa Binondo. But I don't think our fellow will stay in those areas. They already have the budget and I'm sure they can manage it. Yan ang hirap sa ating mga Pinoy eh. Mahilig sa crab mentality. Hayaan naman nating umangat sila. And I don't think that the HK government will allow their families to reside in HK if they are not capable. But imo, they only want to protect their stay in HK. Gaya din ng iba nating mga kababayan na nag-aabroad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by first_light View Post
    Yan ang hirap sa ating mga Pinoy eh. Mahilig sa crab mentality. Hayaan naman nating umangat sila. And I don't think that the HK government will allow their families to reside in HK if they are not capable. But imo, they only want to protect their stay in HK. Gaya din ng iba nating mga kababayan na nag-aabroad.
    [SIZE=3]CBCP to World Youth Day ‘TNTs’: Go home[/SIZE]

    CBCP to World Youth Day

    About 1,500 catholics who went to the World Youth Day last August in Spain have gone TNT.

    Before the religious event, the Spanish embassy in Manila asked the CBCP: "How many Filipinos will NOT return?", expecting a high rate of illegal emigrants. The CBCP priests made the pilgrims sign a Promise to Return, to no effect.

    The affluent countries in the world know that the poor Pinoys will use whatever ways or means to leave the Philippines.

    So will the Filipino family members even ask permission from the HK governemt if they could stay, or they will just make Tago-tago at the OFW's place?

    If the Filipinos are not welcome in the other countries, they have no one to blame but themselves.

    CRAB MENTALITY or REALITY?

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    Quote Originally Posted by andywesteast View Post
    [SIZE=3]CBCP to World Youth Day ‘TNTs’: Go home[/SIZE]

    CBCP to World Youth Day

    About 1,500 catholics who went to the World Youth Day last August in Spain have gone TNT.

    Before the religious event, the Spanish embassy in Manila asked the CBCP: "How many Filipinos will NOT return?", expecting a high rate of illegal emigrants. The CBCP priests made the pilgrims sign a Promise to Return, to no effect.

    The affluent countries in the world know that the poor Pinoys will use whatever ways or means to leave the Philippines.

    So will the Filipino family members even ask permission from the HK governemt if they could stay, or they will just make Tago-tago at the OFW's place?

    If the Filipinos are not welcome in the other countries, they have no one to blame but themselves.

    CRAB MENTALITY or REALITY?
    WYD delegates are given temporary visas only....

    The pinay maid is qualified to have a permanent residence status... these are different scenarios....

    If Spain has a law that says "shoot to kill" illegal immigrants then so be it....

    HK law dictates that the maid qualified for permanent residency.... then that should be enacted.....

    this is just plain and simple.... laws are laws whether you are poor or rich... at least in first world countries.....

    It is just sad that some people think Filipinos deserve **** when even if the said individual passed the qualifications being required by that certain state.... it is far more sad that those discriminating thoughts came from our fellow "kababayans".... if you don't call that crab mentality, then what should we call that?

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    #24
    According to our HK business principal, the HK government is reluctant to grant residency to Pinoy maids for a reason. They are afraid of the influx of TNTs who will take advantage of the OFW's residence to hide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marg View Post
    According to our HK business principal, the HK government is reluctant to grant residency to Pinoy maids for a reason. They are afraid of the influx of TNTs who will take advantage of the OFW's residence to hide.
    Huh? Eh matagal ng VISA free ang HK for PH so matagal ng mataas ang rate ang TNT sa kanila. Tapos nung nagkaroon ng case regarding sa DH eh saka nila sasabihin iyan. Hehehe. Kowmonmehn!!

    :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by andywesteast View Post
    [SIZE=3]CBCP to World Youth Day ‘TNTs’: Go home[/SIZE]

    CBCP to World Youth Day

    About 1,500 catholics who went to the World Youth Day last August in Spain have gone TNT.

    Before the religious event, the Spanish embassy in Manila asked the CBCP: "How many Filipinos will NOT return?", expecting a high rate of illegal emigrants. The CBCP priests made the pilgrims sign a Promise to Return, to no effect.

    The affluent countries in the world know that the poor Pinoys will use whatever ways or means to leave the Philippines.

    So will the Filipino family members even ask permission from the HK governemt if they could stay, or they will just make Tago-tago at the OFW's place?

    If the Filipinos are not welcome in the other countries, they have no one to blame but themselves.

    CRAB MENTALITY or REALITY?
    Iba scenario ng HK DH sa mga "devoted" Catholics na kasama sa Spain brad. If TNT lang ang prob nila, eh mag-issue na sila ng Visa sa Pinas.

    :D

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    #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Boy Bastos View Post
    Huh? Eh matagal ng VISA free ang HK for PH so matagal ng mataas ang rate ang TNT sa kanila. Tapos nung nagkaroon ng case regarding sa DH eh saka nila sasabihin iyan. Hehehe. Kowmonmehn!!
    To rent a place in HK, you need to have a HK ID number, kaya konti lang TNT sa HK....NOWHERE TO HIDE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marg View Post
    According to our HK business principal, the HK government is reluctant to grant residency to Pinoy maids for a reason. They are afraid of the influx of TNTs who will take advantage of the OFW's residence to hide.
    then they should revise their law.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by marg View Post
    To rent a place in HK, you need to have a HK ID number, kaya konti lang TNT sa HK....NOWHERE TO HIDE.
    So bakit ganito sinabi ng iyong HK business principal mo?

    Quote Originally Posted by marg View Post
    According to our HK business principal, the HK government is reluctant to grant residency to Pinoy maids for a reason. They are afraid of the influx of TNTs who will take advantage of the OFW's residence to hide.

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    HK ID numbers are also given to foreigners with legal residence status. AFAIK.

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    Mga racist....!!!



    Foreign maids lose court fight for HK residency
    Top Hong Kong court rules unanimously to deny permanent residency bid by foreign maids

    By Kelvin Chan, Associated Press

    HONG KONG (AP) -- Hong Kong's top court ruled against two Filipino domestic helpers seeking permanent residency Monday, the final decision in a case that affects tens of thousands of other foreign maids in the southern Chinese financial hub.

    In a unanimous ruling, the Court of Final Appeal sided with the government's position that tight restrictions on domestic helpers mean they don't have the same status as other foreign residents, who can apply to settle permanently after seven years. Lawyers for the two had argued that an immigration provision barring domestic workers from permanent residency was unconstitutional.

    In the ruling, Chief Justice Geoffrey Ma wrote that foreign domestic helpers "are told from the outset that admission is not for the purposes of settlement and that dependents cannot be brought to reside in Hong Kong."

    The decision means Evangeline Banao Vallejos and Daniel Domingo cannot apply for permanent residence even though Vallejos has worked in Hong Kong since 1986 and Domingo since 1985. Neither appeared at court.

    "We are very disappointed," said Mark Daly, a lawyer for the pair.

    He said Vallejos was speechless after learning about the decision.

    "While we respect the judgment, we disagree with it," Daly said.

    He added that the ruling is "not a good reflection of the values we should be teaching youngsters and people in our society."

    The case has split the city, home to nearly 300,000 maids from Southeast Asian countries. The vast majority are from Indonesia and the Philippines. Some argue that barring maids from applying for residency amounts to ethnic discrimination. But other groups have raised fears that the case would result in a massive influx of maids' family members arriving in Hong Kong, straining the densely populated city's social services, health and education systems.

    Supporters of the maids, who earn at least $500 a month and get room and board, say those fears are overblown.

    Members of an activist group briefly chanted "We are workers, not slaves" and others slogans on the courthouse's front steps after the ruling was released.

    "Today is a very sad day for migrant workers in Hong Kong," said Eman Villanueva, secretary-general of United Filipinos in Hong Kong. "With the court's ruling today, it gave its judicial seal to unfair treatment and the social exclusion of foreign domestic workers in Hong Kong."

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    #32
    3rd world lang kasi tayo....

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    #33
    Naka specify naman yan na di pwedeng maging residente ang DH ng natangap sila mag trabaho sa HK. It is very clear from the start.

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    ^

    Saan naka specify sir? sa batas ng hongkong government?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    3rd world lang kasi tayo....
    Takot ang HK sa flood of TNT from the PH once residency is granted.

    The maids will bring in their extended family to HK.

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    With housing so expensive in HK...

    But other groups have raised fears that the case would result in a massive influx of maids' family members arriving in Hong Kong, straining the densely populated city's social services, health and education systems.


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