Suzuki APV [Merged Threads]

**12vdc** · November 10th, 2012 12:36 AM

Originally Posted by danding

*keno meron pala ganyan na model (dual aircon na)

share ko din dito yung mga diy ko sa apv ko next week. convert ko muna.
change oil ko na next week. ilang liters ba engine oil pati na rin transmission
oil para minsanan?

This is from stealership i got some time ago and use it as my guide.

**12vdc** · November 10th, 2012 12:52 AM

*keno - did the strainer and gasket came as a kit, howmuch did it cost? im planning also to DIY replace my ATF next month coz its nearing 85k.. I noticed also your ATF has viscosity, i tought its an ordinary Dexron III?

I also replaced my belts 2months ago, it was full of small cracks that was causing squeaks..

**olidotcom** · November 10th, 2012 01:38 AM

oh my gaawwwwd... front brake pads 4363!!! eh bendix blue pads alam ko less than 1k lang.. tapos brake shoes around 800 to 900.. for both wheels na yun.

**dr. d** · November 10th, 2012 01:45 AM

Originally Posted by olidotcom

oh my gaawwwwd... front brake pads 4363!!! eh bendix blue pads alam ko less than 1k lang.. tapos brake shoes around 800 to 900.. for both wheels na yun.

there are local refils available..

**12vdc** · November 10th, 2012 01:49 AM

^ LOL.. mahal talaga parts lalo na orig at galing stealership. source ko ng parts sa Caloocan, Pasay and Binondo, pahirapan talaga.

Sharing some of my maintenance DIY:

Leaky RR brake cylinder (rear is single circuit, RL is connect to RR)
Brake cylinder Assy Ando R-228
Part cost: P1.5K
Labor: DIY

O2 senser Denso 18213-61J00-000 (finally fixed the CEL and poor fuel economy,i recommend to do this at casa. I did it DIY but wasnt sucessful removing CEL, my scanguage didnt worked to clear the PID)
Part cost: P6.8K
Labor: Free, clearing of CEL charged to checkup at CASA

FR wheel bearing OE PN# 43462-61J00-R // NSK PN# 35BWD24CA18
Cost: P2.3K, but since my FL bearing is starting to make funny noise, i looked around and found a store with original bearing for P1024, will be installing pag sinipag..hehe
Labor: DIY
No pics, nasty job

Oil lube upgrade
Orig Baldwin Filter (I think i posted this somewhere)
BT223
Cost P215
Oil pan gasket(same with my navara): P25

**olidotcom** · November 10th, 2012 02:53 AM

very nice sir.. dami palang mga DIY'ers dito sa APV team...

anyone can provide information regarding APV's brake shoe? kung ano ang item number? or similar part from other vehicle? (shared parts)

we discovered that the front disc brake pads for the APV is being shared by the front disc brakes for the AVANZA.

**keno4864** · November 10th, 2012 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by 12vdc

*keno - did the strainer and gasket came as a kit, how much did it cost? im planning also to DIY replace my ATF next month coz its nearing 85k.. I noticed also your ATF has viscosity, i tought its an ordinary Dexron III?

Separate sir and by the way, I can hear a little humming ( umu ugong ) sound at the back of my seat when
I go above 40 kph. It lessen a little after changing the ATF and strainer. Do you have this experience? Still
need to observe it though when I can go 50 to 80 kph because it did got louder the last time I went 60 kph.
I thought it was the differential gear making the humming but when I put it in neutral and cruised at 60
kph, it went away so it's might be coming from the transmission? Maybe it needs an over haul? Thank you.

**12vdc** · November 10th, 2012 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by keno4864

Separate sir and by the way, I can hear a little humming ( umu ugong ) sound at the back of my seat when
I go above 40 kph. It lessen a little after changing the ATF and strainer. Do you have this experience? Still
need to observe it though when I can go 50 to 80 kph because it did got louder the last time I went 60 kph.
I thought it was the differential gear making the humming but when I put it in neutral and cruised at 60
kph, it went away so it's might be coming from the transmission? Maybe it needs an over haul? Thank you.

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Never experienced that sir. All i can observe is my APV is slow and getting slower..

When i floor the gas, acceleration dont pickup that fast from 80 to 100, then i got some delayed shifts thou i can still hit 130-140kph top. FC improved from 9 to 11 KPL highway after i changed O2S

The humming sound of my front bearing goes with speed. Yours might be from engine and driveline or vibrating parts like unsecured seats. Whats the color of the old ATF, were you able to recover the fluids?

Before going to the big job of A/T overhaul, might want to inspect first the maintenance parts.. Check the driveline from engine supports, propeller shaft down to the axle and rear wheel bearings coz engine load also affects how they behave.

**olidotcom** · November 10th, 2012 01:35 PM

after 4 years.. napa camber ko din.. hehehe.. hope this solves the issue with uneaven tire wear... time will tell

**keno4864** · November 10th, 2012 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by 12vdc

Never experienced that sir. All i can observe is my APV is slow and getting slower..

When i floor the gas, acceleration dont pickup that fast from 80 to 100, then i got some delayed shifts thou i can still hit 130-140kph top. FC improved from 9 to 11 KPL highway after i changed O2S

The humming sound of my front bearing goes with speed. Yours might be from engine and driveline or vibrating parts like unsecured seats. Whats the color of the old ATF, were you able to recover the fluids?

Before going to the big job of A/T overhaul, might want to inspect first the maintenance parts.. Check the driveline from engine supports, propeller shaft down to the axle and rear wheel bearings coz engine load also affects how they behave.

Thank you sir for the advice, I dropped by Suzuki service today to complain it again for
I had the chance to run the apv at 60 to 80 kph today and the humming ( umu ugong )
sound is still there. Their mechanic test drive the car and said that the transmission
needs to be over hauled and they have to check if the over hauling kit is available and
if not I have to buy the assembly. According to them the assembly cost 180k Php plus!
They also assumed that the previous owner did not do any maintenance requirements
for the transmission and thus, may have damage it already.

I called up Olympia Auto Supply and they said that they don't have this transmission
over hauling kit or the assembly. They said that they have ordered this over hauling kit
from the U.S. already but have not arrived yet and may cost about 12,000.00 Php plus.
They also advice me to look for an automatic transmission specialist for a second
opinion rather that following the CASA's advice. I asked them if they can recommend
someone but they declined.

Sorry about the ATF color, when I checked the dip stick before the ATF was replaced.
It was not that dark but light. I can't remember the color exactly but my brother said
to me that it was still ok. Well, we are not experts and some say that the viscosity
has an effect on its performance also.

I called up other service centers and one said that the transmission bearing should
be replace and I have to bring the car to them for a thorough test to be sure. According
to them, if the car is not accelerating normally or shifting then there's something wrong
with the parts inside the assembly. But humming sound maybe be just bearings and
they can replace it. I well give this a try on Monday. Maybe if this was a manual rather
than an automatic, my expenses won't be that big!

Video

Suzuki apv aurtomatic transmission noise - YouTube